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After getting too many left over Space Marines from my AoBR boxed set, I decided to put together a little Space Marine force. Mainly this was at my son's prompting so that we could have a "guest" army for when his friends come by and want to learn how to play. With that in mind, I set out to start painting, but couldn't settle on a paint theme. All of the standard Codex paint jobs seemed cool, and I'm a really novice painter, so they all had specific challenges that made them interesting to try.

So, I decided to form my own chapter that used the color schemes of all the others. Basically the idea is that my chapter represents fallen Space Marines from other chapters who have left their original chapter and joined these "Lost Boys" for one reason or another. So, for example, some are Nova Marines, who are reportedly "Scattered throughout the galaxy," some are Brazen Claws who left were scattered before they went into the Eye of Terror, some are Relictors who basically left the chapter because of the whole tainted artifact issue, etc. etc.

The defining mark is that, when they join the "Lost Boys" (working title, I suppose), they paint over their old troop insignia with an orange paint. So all the modles have the basic colors of their original chapter, but it's marked in at least one area with the blank orange color (typically the shoulder pad, for example).

I have posted a few model pictures in My Gallery and while I'd appreciate feedback on the painting as well (I'm still very new to painting of any kind), I'm wondering if the fluff works.

Thoughts?

I guess that would work, I mean kinda sounds like The Legion of The Damned but The Legion are from one Chapter its sayed. But I think you mite have to change the whole thing about fallen from other chapters, the Dark Angels are the only ones who have fallen IIRC, perhaps they could be renegade Space Marines from those chapters that believe The Imperium corrupt, like The Soul Drinkers do, and fight for Humanity but not for The Imperium itself, cause I dont think other Space marines would be fighting with fallen, Do you have more background for them?

I say ignore the above poster as i dont think he grasps your concept.
but just to clarify your chapter is composed of SM that have left their own legions (fallen) for some reason or another and joined this chapter so they can still help mankind?

corpsesarefun wrote:but just to clarify your chapter is composed of SM that have left their own legions (fallen) for some reason or another and joined this chapter so they can still help mankind?

Yes, that would be the most succinct summary I couldn't come up with when I wrote my post.

Sounds like the original Red Corsairs.

Are they still loyalist though?

Orkeosaurus wrote:Sounds like the original Red Corsairs.

Are they still loyalist though?

Okay, so I think I'm in over my head in terms of Space Marine fluff I assume they are still aligned to the Emperor, but I clearly haven't though this through completely. My original idea was to have a Chaplain as the commander - basically, the Chaplain has a reputation for taking willing souls, regardless of past behavior, indiscretion, or whatever, and putting them to work fighting for the Emperor's cause and mankind.

Note that I've only paid attention the the Space Marines since the new Codex came out, so I'm woefully unfamiliar with their history beyond the cursory reading of that book.

You could always do a Deathwatch army, and perhaps do a count as Force commander using an Inquisitor model (so it would be a Ordo Xenos looking Space Marine army).

NoBanjo wrote:Okay, so I think I'm in over my head in terms of Space Marine fluff I assume they are still aligned to the Emperor, but I clearly haven't though this through completely. My original idea was to have a Chaplain as the commander - basically, the Chaplain has a reputation for taking willing souls, regardless of past behavior, indiscretion, or whatever, and putting them to work fighting for the Emperor's cause and mankind.

Note that I've only paid attention the the Space Marines since the new Codex came out, so I'm woefully unfamiliar with their history beyond the cursory reading of that book.

Ah, well if I recall correctly, the Red Corsairs were originally called the Astral Claws. During the Badab uprising they betrayed the Imperium and fled into the Maelstrom; along the way, the Red Corsairs attracted countless other renegade marines, who would often simply mark their new allegiance with a red "X" over their former chapter's insignia. Thus, the Red Corsairs were a collection of assorted chapters banded together in treason. (They were also pirates.)

I could see a warband made from various other chapters still loyal to the Imperium working out though. Maybe formed in the aftermath of some sort of crusade that went awry? They could be fleet based, recruiting those loyal to the Imperium but abandoned or stranded somehow, with the space marines forming the fleet's command and vanguard. The core of the marines could be from chapters that are scattered or declared destroyed (so they have nowhere to go), with marines from still functioning chapters on the side (who could have a variety of reasons to have joined with them).

Dakkadood wrote:You could always do a Deathwatch army, and perhaps do a count as Force commander using an Inquisitor model (so it would be a Ordo Xenos looking Space Marine army).

if you want them to be loyal to the emperor then this is the best way to "FLUFF" them in deathwatch come from all chapters of the marines (except dark angels) so mixed chapters is not uncommon and is the closest fit with the force you describe.

add an inquisitor as your HQ (there are loads of different ones to chose from) bish bosh there you go

In the second ed ultramarines book makes reference to crusade forces. That when a crusade is called many space marine chapters may contribute troops, even if it is only a squad or two.

I believe it also makes some kind of mention in more recent books about Guilliman being one of the few Captains who has enough respect from other Marine Chapters to get a crusading force together.

So if you did each squad up in a singular chapters paint scheme and perhaps used Ultramarines for the command units, I could see that working fluff wise.

Just my two cents.

Under strength marine units get recycled to form new chapters. The habit of marines to go all over the galaxy to fight in often small numbers though means that it is very likely that groups of loyalists marines from various chapters find themselves fighting the same battles together. In such a case a chaplain or other senior marine would take over command of the marines present.

If the marines are the only ones left after their chapter was wiped out or turned traitor, maybe they've been grouped together with other remnant marines to fight an important battle. This is a temporary situation and after the crisis is over they'll be used to found new chapters or maybe reinforce existing ones of the same geneseed as themselves (if that happens). If they're remnants of chapters that have turned traitor then there may be grey knights leading them to ensure their loyalty.

I like your idea, but you need to get to grips with the whole WH40K Space Marines fluff, and perhaps the Chaos Marine Codex will help as well.

I think your idea is not a bad one, if you start playing the game it'll be great to see some "over protective" Space Marine player come up against his own chapter colours....but turned traitor! coolio factor 12!

However, before you start painting, really invest some time and money in the following books:

Space Marine Codex
Chaos Marine Codex
Ultramarines novel: Black Sun Dead Sky.
Heros of the Space Marines.
DeathWatch series: 3 Books, can't remember the titles.

Now, I'm not recommending these because they are master pieces of literature....but because they contain relevant fluff for the idea that you wish to persue!

Happy hobbying

I'm very much a novice, but to my limited knowledge it seems like it could work.
It's a very cool idea though, and I may just steal it.

I remember reading that when there was unrest in the hives on various worlds. The Imperials asked Space Marines chapters to lend aid of soldiers. This often meant that you could have 10 terminators for example from 10 different chapters which were more than enough to quell any uprising. When the enemy saw this he would believe that 20 chapters had arrived so many of the unrests were quickly resolved.

Food for thought to help with the fluff for your army.

Imperial Crusades also often form 'provisional companies' or 'provisional chapters' of space marines. Which consists of roughly so many marines from what ever chapter lent troops.

I've seen this done before - A guy did an army on B&C that was made up of "Extinct" Chapters and Marines from those that had lost their Homeworld or been exiled. Long as you have some way to set them apart from someone playing one of those chapters - which you do - then it would probably work fine. Plus, if you look up some Killteam pics on Google and read the Killteam section in the 4th Ed Rulebook, you could come up with some wicked personalizations for a small 750 pt force.

Need a better name than "Lost Boys" though. Sounds too Orky for an SM chapter.

The original Lost Boys were the followers of Peter Pan that lived in Neverneverland. There was also a movie about vampires called Lost Boys.
I don't think orks get lost, they just find new lands to conquer.

What about Grotz? Does dem' get lost?

As far as a Chapter name maybe "

Memoria Nobis

Latin for Remember us


Just spit balling =)


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Oh and I have been working on a off chapter SM army as well.

Doing Blood Angels Capt. Lucertis company. Who after not getting to Angels square in Vogen in time to reinforce his Blood Angel Brethern and they were all slaughterd. So Lucertis had all Blood Angel Insignia removed from himself and his whole company, painted there helmets black and, went on a hundred year crusade to atone for his failure.


Will post some pics after I finish my Eldar LOL =)

Delephont wrote:I like your idea, but you need to get to grips with the whole WH40K Space Marines fluff, and perhaps the Chaos Marine Codex will help as well.

I think your idea is not a bad one, if you start playing the game it'll be great to see some "over protective" Space Marine player come up against his own chapter colours....but turned traitor! coolio factor 12!

However, before you start painting, really invest some time and money in the following books:

Space Marine Codex
Chaos Marine Codex
Ultramarines novel: Black Sun Dead Sky.
Heros of the Space Marines.
DeathWatch series: 3 Books, can't remember the titles.

Now, I'm not recommending these because they are master pieces of literature....but because they contain relevant fluff for the idea that you wish to persue!

Happy hobbying

Thanks for the pointers that's a good idea; I have the SM Codex; but I'll look into the others.

NOVICE PANTER MY ARSE




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hmm i like the idea tbh i likes allt hings renegade but not chaos