Warlord Inferno Cannon

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**Valkyrie**

Page 125 of the Apoc rulebook states that the template for the Inferno Gun must be placed "so that the narrow end is within 18"of the weapon"
Page 124 states that a Warlord can take an Inferno Gun as a carapace weapon, which because of the Towering Monstrosity rule had a minimum range of 24"
How can one use the Inferno Gun if the minimum range is greater than the maximim range?
I know there are better weapons for the Warlord carapace but I just need clarification on this

Thanks

**Tri**

It doesn't work ... when playing this my group have always ignored the 24" min rule for the the flamer as its the only way to work.

**Gwar!**

Yay for GW's extensive Playtesting!

**1hadhq**

Valkyrie wrote:Page 125 of the Apoc rulebook states that the template for the Inferno Gun must be placed "so that the narrow end is within 18"of the weapon"
Page 124 states that a Warlord can take an Inferno Gun as a carapace weapon, which because of the Towering Monstrosity rule had a minimum range of 24"
How can one use the Inferno Gun if the minimum range is greater than the maximim range?
I know there are better weapons for the Warlord carapace but I just need clarification on this

Thanks

Possible to use the inferno.
Reread the towering monstrosity rule.
Isn't there an exception for the inferno gun?

Maybe care to quote the line?

( I'm sure the inferno gun is allowed to shoot with the "warhound" rules, at least in a German Apoc rulebook. )

**Gwar!**

1hadhq wrote:Possible to use the inferno.
Reread the towering monstrosity rule.
Isn't there an exception for the inferno gun?

Maybe care to quote the line?

Wow.
No need for snarky comments. There is no Exception in the English Apoc Book.

**Tri**

wow if only we had your translator reading the rules ... just out of interest 1hadhq what does you version say?

**1hadhq**

Tri wrote:wow if only we had your translator reading the rules ... just out of interest 1hadhq what does you version say?

<snip>
-" die schulterwaffen des warlords haben eine minimalreichweite von 24 zoll ( ausser das inferno-geschütz, das schießt normal ) "
</snip>

the added ( ) may indicate an correction whilst in the translation process.
Thought this is part of the rule " worldwide" ....

So its like: "except the inferno gun, shooting normally" in english

sorry if this translation is horrible

I can't see the reason to forfeit corrections for the english version. There must be some time spent on translations, should be enough to
get the printed books into some halfway decent state.

**Platuan4th**

1hadhq wrote:I can't see the reason to forfeit corrections for the english version.

Because there is no correction. This seems to be a case of the Translator reading the rule, realizing it doesn't work, and fixing it himself with GW Germany not caring.

In other words, GW Germany's translator did something the GW studios don't: proofreading.

**Tri**

Round of applause for the translator

**Lordhat**

Valkyrie wrote:Page 125 of the Apoc rulebook states that the template for the Inferno Gun must be placed "so that the narrow end is within 18"of the weapon"
Page 124 states that a Warlord can take an Inferno Gun as a carapace weapon, which because of the Towering Monstrosity rule had a minimum range of 24"
How can one use the Inferno Gun if the minimum range is greater than the maximim range?
I know there are better weapons for the Warlord carapace but I just need clarification on this

Thanks

Or maybe... JUST maybe..... it's a NEW minimum range because of Towering Monstrosity..... not that hard to houserule (which is what APOC is all about.)

**Jackmojo**

Hell I'd let people play it whichever way they wanted...its such a sub par choice for the Warlord...

Jack

**jeffersonian000**

Not to throw any spanners into the gears here, but aren't Inferno Cannons listed as template weapons? As such, don't we treat them as a template weapon in all ways except for any special rules they might have; i.e., "place the narrow end so that it touches the weapon's nozzle/barrel with the wide end covering the most enemy models possible while touching no other friend models, and oh, by the way, since this weapon is special, you can push it up to 18" away from the weapon as long as the narrow end is never further from the weapon than the wide end?"

Seems like the exception is already built into the rules.

SJ

**Gwar!**

jeffersonian000 wrote:Not to throw any spanners into the gears here, but aren't Inferno Cannons listed as template weapons? As such, don't we treat them as a template weapon in all ways except for any special rules they might have; i.e., "place the narrow end so that it touches the weapon's nozzle/barrel with the wide end covering the most enemy models possible while touching no other friend models, and oh, by the way, since this weapon is special, you can push it up to 18" away from the weapon as long as the narrow end is never further from the weapon than the wide end?"

Seems like the exception is already built into the rules.

SJ

Even if it did, the Warlords rule says it has a Minimum range of 24", so placing the Template per the Template Rules is breaking that rule.

**jeffersonian000**

Except that "Template" is a range of its own. All I'm saying is that the minimum range restriction applies to ranged attacks, while template weapons have a range of "Template" and follow those rules during the shooting phase instead of normal ranged combat.

What is the minimum range of a template? Unless it's an Inferno Cannon, 0".

SJ

**Valkyrie**

Also, do you measure the 18" from the weapon, or the base of the titan, as I saw on other threads that the average height of a Warlord is about 24", so if I measure 18" from the weapon, it wont even touch the ground.

**nosferatu1001**

You should measure from the weapon (BRB rules) however its Apoc: ask the question before hand.