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I have two lists but need to choose one. here goes

big mek w/kff,pk,bp
19 shoota boyz
battle wagon w/deffrolla

big mek w/kff,pk,bp
19 slugga boyz
battle wagon w/ deffrolla

20 slugga boyz w/ nob(pk,bp)
battle wagon w/ deffrolla

30 shoota boyz w/ nob(pk,bp)

25 shoota boyz w/nob (pk,bp)

25 shoota boyz w/nob (pk,bp)

15 lootaz

15 lootaz

15 lootaz

1x deffkoptas w/ rokkitz and buzzsaws in 3 fast attack unitz

or

45 lootaz in 3 elite units

1x defkoptas w/rokkitz and buzzsaws in 3 fast attack units

20 shoota boyz w/nob (pk,bp)
battle wagon w/ deffrolla

ghazghkull thraka
19 slugga boyz
battle wagon w/deffrolla,armour plates

big mek w/kff,bp,pk
19 shoota boyz
battle wagon w/deffrolla

30 shoota boyz w/nob (pk,bp)

30 shoota boyz w/ nob (pk,bp)

Second list is peppered with 6 rokkitz or 12 big shootas (advice on this too please)

P.S.

And no Orks do one thing well but have to pick one thing..crap (what is that cut and paste every post gak anyway?)

I like list # 2 better as the deffrolla thing depends on the tournament orginizor list #1 would have a hard time if it was rulled deffrollas don't work in ramming. Then you'd never be able to kill fast moving land raiders.

I'm pretty sure at my FLGS the organizor is allowing deffrollas ram and tank shock as same thing. but I think list two is a little more killy also but wanted other peoples opinions. (it is after all ard boyz not panzie boys that cant handle some str 10 attacks from melta bait)

So everyone is having as hard a time as I am picking between the list. Which scares you more?

The kff list scares me more, because the transports are much more survivable, but one thing on the second list ghaz is in mega armor so he takes up 2 transport slots, so you can only have 18 boyz with him in the wagon.

Honestly, neither list 'scares' me like I think Orks should scare me.

Second list looks best to me cause of gza.

However why not give his wagon a boarding plank so you can kill a enemy tank if need be without having to step out.