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2012/12/06 04:57:04
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
At first I was sad that at the loss of hmg's and drum mags, but all those pouches and heads really make up for it.
I'll have plenty of hmg's anyway. It sure looks like he got carried away with weapon grips and arms though!
Not to worry, all those rifles and drum mags were moved to the core trooper sprues... You did not loose anything, you gained extras by moving them from the accessory sprues to the core trooper sprues, we made space to add all the extras
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2012/12/06 20:17:54
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
At first I was sad that at the loss of hmg's and drum mags, but all those pouches and heads really make up for it.
I'll have plenty of hmg's anyway. It sure looks like he got carried away with weapon grips and arms though!
Not to worry, all those rifles and drum mags were moved to the core trooper sprues... You did not loose anything, you gained extras by moving them from the accessory sprues to the core trooper sprues, we made space to add all the extras
At first I was sad that at the loss of hmg's and drum mags, but all those pouches and heads really make up for it.
I'll have plenty of hmg's anyway. It sure looks like he got carried away with weapon grips and arms though!
Not to worry, all those rifles and drum mags were moved to the core trooper sprues... You did not loose anything, you gained extras by moving them from the accessory sprues to the core trooper sprues, we made space to add all the extras
Ooooh, damn but you make the wait intolerable!
I feel your pain.... the wait on my end is agonizing as well. Honestly, what they have achieved in the time frame they were given is nothing short of AMAZING... I know it does not help but when I look at the sheer quantity of tooling they have created (not counting the WGF release and Wyrd releases) while keeping the quality top notch; simply breathtaking.
My hat is off to the WGF employees and engineers.
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2012/12/06 20:43:38
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
Souleater wrote: When is this stuff going on general release, please?
After the KS backers have been shipped their products for each phase, they will make their way into the supply chain. I have no idea how long it will take for the wholesalers to get the kits to the retailers in the various countries they serve.
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2012/12/06 21:07:48
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
Souleater wrote: When is this stuff going on general release, please?
After the KS backers have been shipped their products for each phase, they will make their way into the supply chain. I have no idea how long it will take for the wholesalers to get the kits to the retailers in the various countries they serve.
Mark, just out of curiosity, how is work going on the 2 exclusive miniatures? I am very interested to see further iterations of the Shadowkesh, and to see how Ada (and potentially her comrades!) are progressing.
I work in injection molding, so Ill throw a bit in here. A base mold would be like any other...the more complex the shape, the more variety of finishes, the more details, angles, etc...the more expensive it will be. For instance the mold for non slot GW bases would be cheaper than an equal size slotted PP base. The dipped center, the slot, and the curved lip would all require more intricate machining than the simple flat top and slant side of the GW base.
The one nice part of most bases is size, even a relatively small mold...say 6x10 inches...can gold a good number of 25-40mm bases. Maybe even one each of several sizes if thats what the customer wanted.
Even still...bases would be a volume item due to the relative simplicity and small size. If your not going to move hundreds of thosands or even millions, it might be a losing proposal.
Proxie Models does it because its one person in his free time doing everything...mold making, injection molding, etc. And he does a great job. I picked up a set of his 30mm bases a week or so ago from Ebay...perfect castings, no flash or warp. I will be buying more of his products for sure.
Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
2012/12/06 21:24:41
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
Souleater wrote: When is this stuff going on general release, please?
After the KS backers have been shipped their products for each phase, they will make their way into the supply chain. I have no idea how long it will take for the wholesalers to get the kits to the retailers in the various countries they serve.
AWESOME. Very glad to hear this. I guess you probably wouldn't have gone through all the trouble (and it seems you did quite alot!) if not for the possibility of making these expensive and difficult molds if you couldn't make them investments in future production.
All in all, seems like a very worthwhile use of the Kickstarter model!
-C6
2012/12/06 22:56:05
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
At first I was sad that at the loss of hmg's and drum mags, but all those pouches and heads really make up for it.
I'll have plenty of hmg's anyway. It sure looks like he got carried away with weapon grips and arms though!
Not to worry, all those rifles and drum mags were moved to the core trooper sprues... You did not loose anything, you gained extras by moving them from the accessory sprues to the core trooper sprues, we made space to add all the extras
Not that i'm complaining, but comon, that many arms and weapon grips? you're just teasing us now
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2012/12/10 21:21:50
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
Knowing Mark... he would insist that the wingspan be enough to realistically carry the weight of the vehicle. That could be huge indeed. So I don't know how big wings that would carry the equivalent of one of his APCs would have to be, but I'm guessing at least 24 inches, all in all?
Automatically Appended Next Post: And I would probably buy it, too.
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GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
2012/12/11 00:26:38
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
It may not even need large wings, depending on what kind of flight technology is used in the Iron Core setting.
I would love to see a design for an Eisenkern flyer, as well as a battle tank. But I'm sure Mark is currently quite busy finishing the digital sculpts for the 2nd and 3rd waves, to make sure they get out on time.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
2012/12/11 01:00:21
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
Any one put a bug in KR Multicase's ear about these? I for one would greatly appreciate custom foam for Leviathan stowage.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'd also like to second the flyers, that would be epic across the board.
From the impression I got from the fluff Eisenkern's heavy armor support IS the Leviathans. I believe we'll see tanks amongst the Space Soviets and other factions where Leviathans are more scarce acquisition wise.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
I too would love a KR with space for a leviathan, spare arms, 30 troops, and 3 APCs.
Flyer would depend on things like size - especially wingspan - and cost, but would love to see a proposed design.
"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology.
2012/12/11 16:45:29
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
From the impression I got from the fluff Eisenkern's heavy armor support IS the Leviathans. I believe we'll see tanks amongst the Space Soviets and other factions where Leviathans are more scarce acquisition wise.
I would agree. It seemed to me that the wealthier factions use Leviathans almost exclusevly as front line armor, where the Protectorate (following Soviet influence) prefers larger numbers of cheaper units to do the same job. I cant wait for them, I want some Iron Core Soviet armor.
Whats my game?
Warmachine (Cygnar)
10/15mm mecha
Song of Blades & Heroes
Blackwater Gulch
X wing
Open to other games too
2012/12/11 16:49:36
Subject: Re: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
sooo, we have to wait till all the kickstarter stuff is shipped before we can buy the stuff that was shipped in nobember? just wondering. I didn't pledge anything because I figured the point was to sell stuff eventually and figured someone has to actually buy the stuff after you get it made.
2012/12/11 17:18:06
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
I think they'll have the first wave stuff off the shelves pretty soon after shipping, once they have the molds made there's no point in not making stock
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
From the impression I got from the fluff Eisenkern's heavy armor support IS the Leviathans. I believe we'll see tanks amongst the Space Soviets and other factions where Leviathans are more scarce acquisition wise.
I would agree. It seemed to me that the wealthier factions use Leviathans almost exclusevly as front line armor, where the Protectorate (following Soviet influence) prefers larger numbers of cheaper units to do the same job. I cant wait for them, I want some Iron Core Soviet armor.
I'll just repost my earlier comments in this thread showing why I disagree with that assessment:
Maybe, but the fluff also makes it clear that Leviathans must be extremely expensive:
Independent households often barter away vast planetary resources to acquire a Crusader
Emphasis mine on the "vast" and "a".
Eisenkern uses this Leviathan as a powerful bartering chit with the Brotherhood. Tithing ten per year to the order, they have managed to make themselves indispensable.
And giving them only ten per year makes Eisenkern "indispensable." I'm sure Eisenkern would still use battle tanks, especially since they can't have so many Leviathans everywhere to fill the battle tank's role in combat in all engagements.
But, until Mark provides the definitive answer, it's all just speculation.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
2012/12/13 02:02:42
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
So mark are you going to assemble and paint some of those stormtroops, or are you waiting for the accessory sprue? I'd love to see some more of the poses you can build and how they might look with different paint jobs.
"I don't have principles, and I consider any comment otherwise to be both threatening and insulting" - Dogma
"No, sorry, synonymous does not mean same".-Dogma
"If I say "I will hug you" I am threatening you" -Dogma
2012/12/13 09:04:34
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
Well, I can certainly see that, from a tactical point of view, they probably wouldn't want just the Leviathans anyway.
What that means in real terms is.....
If Mark releases an Eisenkern battletank, I'd snap one up!
"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology.
2012/12/13 15:57:48
Subject: DreamForge-Games: We are going plastic! Kickstarter $205K (Pledge Manager opened up to new backers)
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