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Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.

So sorry if this should be obvious, but:

1) Farseers cannot cast Fortune from INSIDE the transport.
2) They CAN cast Fortune on the Transport if they are OUTSIDE.
3) If they DO cast Fortune on the Transport, and the squad INSIDE disembarks, the squad does NOT get the benefits of the Fortune.

So basically if a squad is inside a transport there is no way for it to be Fortuned until the following turn.

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Tacobake wrote:So sorry if this should be obvious, but:

1) Farseers cannot cast Fortune from INSIDE the transport.
2) They CAN cast Fortune on the Transport if they are OUTSIDE.
3) If they DO cast Fortune on the Transport, and the squad INSIDE disembarks, the squad does NOT get the benefits of the Fortune.

So basically if a squad is inside a transport there is no way for it to be Fortuned until the following turn.

Your point 1 is false. The current FAQ prevents psykers from targeting models inside transports (unless they themselves are in the same transport), but doesn't do anything to prevent psykers in transports from casting out. Fortune doesn't require LoS. And Fortune isn't a pyschic shooting attack, which would require a fire port.

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Pretty much what Janthkin said.

The abilities don't require line of sight, its quite explicit. If you're inside a transport, you cast spells just fine.

You can NOT, however, cast shooting attack spells. Everything else is fair game.
   
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Also, the farseer can cast fortune on the unit inside the same transport as the fareser.

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Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.

Manimal wrote:Also, the farseer can cast fortune on the unit inside the same transport as the fareser.


Well now that contradicts what Janthkin said.

That is OK, really. So Farseer + Banshees the Farseer can still cast his spells from inside the Wave Serpent even if he cannot cast it on the squad until the turn after they disembark.

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The Farseer can also cast all powers, even ones he didn't take.

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Thanks for the really helpful post Cannerus_The_Unbearable.

Next time try to refrain from posting unless you have something useful to contribute.

From the gw faq:
Can Psychic powers be used on a unit embarked on a transport?
A. For simplicity’s sake, the answer has to be a firm ‘No, unless the psyker himself is in the unit being transported ...







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So ... the farseer can cast fortune on a unit in the same transport as the farseer.

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Tacobake wrote:So sorry if this should be obvious, but:

1) Farseers cannot cast Fortune from INSIDE the transport.
2) They CAN cast Fortune on the Transport if they are OUTSIDE.
3) If they DO cast Fortune on the Transport, and the squad INSIDE disembarks, the squad does NOT get the benefits of the Fortune.

So basically if a squad is inside a transport there is no way for it to be Fortuned until the following turn.


Your first and second points are so wrong it is funny, as is your comclusion. You really, really need to read the current FAQ.

Psykers can most certainly cast powers while embarked. Shooting Psychic poweres require a fire-point, but non-shooting powers do not. Fortune (as well as Doom and Guide) are non-shooting, and can therefore be cast while embarked in a WS or Flacon. Also, since Fortune, Doom, and Guide do not need LOS, the Farseer can easily target a unit from inside his transport.

What a Farseer cannot do is target a unit that is embarked in a DIFFERENT transport than the one in which the Farseer is emabarked. He is free to target a unit embarked in the same transport as himself.

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Awesome. Yes I should read the FAQ (in fact, I am going to). And thanks.

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I dont think you can target any unit in the transport since the models are not on the table. I agree any LOS powers require a fire point but honestly dont know if you can use other powers inside of a transport. I know that even for orders that the Chimera has a special rule that allows you to use orders inside of it.
   
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broxus, the Chimera has a special rule allowing you to issue orders out of it, yes. But that's because the rules for orders in general prevent you from issuing orders whle embarked in any vehicle. The Chimera rule changes that. Has nothing to do with fire points, LOS or anything like that.
As for targeting a unit in a transport with a psychic power. if the psyker is in the transport with them, it's fine, as already shown by the FAQ (and yes, we know it's not official).

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broxus wrote:I dont think you can target any unit in the transport since the models are not on the table. I agree any LOS powers require a fire point but honestly dont know if you can use other powers inside of a transport. I know that even for orders that the Chimera has a special rule that allows you to use orders inside of it.


Read the Faq as has been said a few times on this forum.

powers cant be cast into a transport unless the psyker himself is in the unit being transported. Psykers can also cast powers outside of transports from fire points or from vehicles without fire points if the power doesnt require LOS.

Last page of faq left side.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2030054_40k_Rulebook_March_2009.pdf

   
 
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