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2009/08/08 21:42:00
Subject: Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Do you use the init value granted with furious charge on your assault turn if you either break and run or break the enemy? i.e would you get that extra " for catching them?
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2009/08/08 22:00:22
Subject: Re:Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Sinewy Scourge
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I believe that you use your unmodified initiative for sweeping advances.
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2009/08/08 22:08:10
Subject: Re:Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Morphing Obliterator
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JGrand wrote:I believe that you use your unmodified initiative for sweeping advances.
Does mark of slaanesh count then?
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2009/08/08 22:16:50
Subject: Re:Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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2009/08/09 06:50:31
Subject: Re:Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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^ Why? Not saying your wrong, but why no?
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2009/08/09 07:23:02
Subject: Re:Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Drudge Dreadnought wrote:JGrand wrote:I believe that you use your unmodified initiative for sweeping advances.
Does mark of slaanesh count then?
Yes.......Furious Charge only boosts your Initiative for the attack phase.......mark of slaanesh permanatly boosts the initiative......
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2009/08/09 10:29:21
Subject: Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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But if you fall back or chase during your assault phase, during which your init is either 3 or 4 as orks /w furious.
So even though for that phase they have a higher init and all actions taking using init happen in that phase in my scenario you'd still use the unmodified? is there a page in the rulebook i could be directed to? normally things are very specific about when you use unmodified stat values.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/08/09 10:29:40
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2009/08/09 10:37:48
Subject: Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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BGB pg. 40 wrote:
Both the unit falling back and the winning unit roll a D6 and add their Initiative value to the result. Always count the initiative value from the model's profile without any modifiers.
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2009/08/09 12:02:17
Subject: Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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....and the reason Mark of Slaanesh *doesn't* work is that it specifically modifies the profile; while it is a permanent change it is akin to the toughness boost from riding a bike - you end up with "I4/5" on their profile.
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2009/08/10 07:32:58
Subject: Re:Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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yarr, all the marks add the () to whatever. Thus you take whatever it is unmodified, the same way you figure out insta-death. It actually says it specifically somewhere in the rulebook
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2009/08/10 08:49:06
Subject: Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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So what about... noise marines? The profile says that their initiative is 5, but the special rules section says "mark of slaanesh (included in profile)."
I'd be inclined to say that they count as "unmodified" initiative 5, because that's what's written in the profile. However, I could see it argued that the mark of slaanesh is still a bonus, and thus modifies the initiative value...
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2009/08/10 17:42:45
Subject: Furious charge and sweeping advances.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It is unmodified as their profile states 5. You cannot argue any other way than what their unmodified profile actually states.
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