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I came across an add for one of their products on FRP games and then went to their web site, where I saw these videos. Either this guy is a total kook or he makes the best dice in the universe.

He's Lou Zocchi, the Dice King. That answers your question right there.

Yea, Ive seen this website before, I like his D3

I have the Chessex Precision-Edge dice sets.......it's all I use....if I'm a PC....now when I DM, nope. As crazy as it sounds.....I know what that guy is saying.

He certainly takes dice more seriously than other companies making dice. But I read a few places that testing showed his products were not as good as claimed.

He is epic

Milled dice are the only real dice. Molded dice are there to look pretty, but are often no good as random number generators.

warpcrafter wrote:Crackpot or dice king?

I fail to see why this has to be an OR question.

Well, considering I played a game with a friend of mine this weekend, and rolled like crap all game with some Armory dice...I literally had a roll that was ALL 1s and 2s--like 16 dice or something. Jain Zar was failing fortune'd armor saves like it was her job (2+ save). It was ugly. So I just ordered myself like 36 of these dice

temprus wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:Crackpot or dice king?

I fail to see why this has to be an OR question.

Ha!!! He is kind of strident at times in his videos. I thought our exposure to the likes of Billy Mays would have desensitized people to that sort of thing.

asmith wrote:He certainly takes dice more seriously than other companies making dice. But I read a few places that testing showed his products were not as good as claimed.

Are you referring to the White Dwarf/d100 thing?

I heard about the d100 thing but not about anything related to WD. the gist of what I remember was that the dice he sells come with a plastic sprue/injection port still attached, and since perfect dice need perfect uniform geometry the dice are only as good as the job you do finishing them. there were other points too but that was the one I remember.


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Oh another point was that the numbers are relieved into the face of the die, which alos alters the balance.

Whats the difference between milled and molded dice?

Well, Lou isn't making them anymore. And the dice inking is crap. We just got an order and we're not impressed.

-John

Milled dice are machined from a chunk of material, molded dice are injection molded (like plastic figures)

Well there are different types of molding and injection is one kind. Lou looks like he was using cold resin casting. He also goes on to talk about why injection molding is also flawed.

Throughout the whole thing, I found it hard not to start giggling and wondering 'My god! The characters! Why won't anyone think of the characters!'

Gakky dice: Killin ur manz since 1973.

Lou is a cool dude who makes cool dice. I got to see his Magic Show at Owlcon. It was amusing. He's a legend in the RPG industry.

I see his point but can't decide who too agree with he has a competitive side that get's him more even to his competitors than over. I'm actually going to have to go with Dice King

I use casino dice and definitely notice the difference. If these are of the normal size and not too expensive (.75$ per isn't bad compared to the price of casino dice) they might be worth trying out.
Where can one get Chessex's precision dice? I am definitely in the market for some extra high quality dice. Rolling 20 casino dice over and over for one charge of my ork army is getting old

Wehrkind wrote:I use casino dice and definitely notice the difference. If these are of the normal size and not too expensive (.75$ per isn't bad compared to the price of casino dice) they might be worth trying out.
Where can one get Chessex's precision dice? I am definitely in the market for some extra high quality dice. Rolling 20 casino dice over and over for one charge of my ork army is getting old

Wow is rolling 6's that important to you? Just a silly game people...........

Lou is 100% on the money about dice.

They look ok but I don't know if you could read them quickly....seems like they would be difficult to discern from 2+ feet. Not to mention, 1.75/dice! Almost 18 bucks for rolling 10 dice...hmmm

Boogs wrote:Lou is a cool dude who makes cool dice. I got to see his Magic Show at Owlcon. It was amusing. He's a legend in the RPG industry.

really? Never heard of him...

hmm, whereas I found the video informative... I also found it TOO informative, I'm going to have to make like the Chinese and bury this corner of the internet from the others at my FLGS otherwise our highrollers (i.e. dude who has ridiculous amounts of money and just buys already completed top-ranked, armies, units, Thunderhawks, Titans etc..) will go ahead and order these babies and then alter them to cheat.... just as the nice friendly dice man told us.

Made of Win but selling fail... oh so epic fail Mr. Lou, lol

Mr. Zocchi is an entertaining fellow. I listend to a bit of his non-stop ramblings at GenCon. Dude must have a couple extra lungs because he never seemed to breathe.

I bought custom made chessex dice with a fleur de lie engraved for the 6.....

They were horrible..in one day I had a eviserator assassin lose to 2 tau...rolled 6 1's out of 10 dice rolled...which statistically is ridiculous

After rolling 200 times in a dice tower the 1's were coming up 24.6% of the time. 6's around 9.3%

I went out and bought casino dice from castaway bay (right before it blew up). I'm much happier with them and haven't had any table top anomalies that have forced me to test them out in the tower.

evilsponge wrote:
Wow is rolling 6's that important to you? Just a silly game people...........

Rolling 6's in and of itself is not terribly important to me. Rolling 6's at the same probability as 1's, 2's, 3's, 4's and 5's is quite important to me. The game is based on a random roll of a d6 with the assumption of equal likelihood of each number. When you have crap chessex dice that have (according to some less than scientific studies) nearly a 30% chance of rolling a 1, that significantly changes the nature of the game.

Besides, we drop 50$+ on a tank model, or 5 terminators to use in one army. Why blink at dropping 50$ on quality dice that will be used with every army we own?

When you pay $100 for a tank you want results, hence the fancy pants dice.

Howlingmoon wrote:

Boogs wrote:Lou is a cool dude who makes cool dice. I got to see his Magic Show at Owlcon. It was amusing. He's a legend in the RPG industry.

really? Never heard of him...

Zocchi's pretty famous in the gaming industry, nonetheless. 15 years ago, before Alliance, your retailers probably got at least some of their stuff from Zocchi.