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Gwar! wrote:
And how do you define "Clear RaI"? From your description, I can only assume it is "How the rules used to work", in which case please allow me to take my Free Deep Striking Space Wolf Grey Hunters who can Fire their Bolters then charge you, while I rush my Sisters in their Rhino and disembark, shoot then assault.

Guys, I am getting a sense of "Gwar is an evil prick" here. Look, it is not my fault GW are staffed by Monkeys. They write the rules, not me.

So many retorts, so little time. Let us suffice to say I do not think Gwar is evil. The rest is on the table.

For the record, equating the "Leman Russ Battle Tank" vs. "Leman Russ Squadron" to "Free Deep Striking Space Wolf Grey Hunters who can Fire their Bolters then charge you, while I rush my Sisters in their Rhino and disembark, shoot then assault" is an incorrect comparison. How? Well, for one thing DH/WH used to be able to take a Leman Russ and now that the unit name slightly changed you assert they cannot. To my knowledge Grey Wolf Hunters have never been without points cost, have never been able to deep strike, have never been able to fire a Rapid Fire weapon and assault the same turn, nor have Sisters ever been able to bypass the Assault Vehicle rule. I can show precedent that WH/DH can take a Leman Russ. You cannot show precedent that your Space Wolves should be free.

In short, we *CAN* know the intent of the Codex authors to allow us to take a Leman Russ Battle Tank. The Codex allowed it. To assume (and that's what you are doing when you do this) that since the IG Codex changed that they no longer intend you to be able to do that is preposterous. The more likely scenario is the Codex authors assumed most *REASONABLE* adults would understand that a Leman Russ is still a Leman Russ and that you can have one.

I will however concede that GW is staffed by Monkeys.

kirsanth wrote:It is funny when people think that nit-picking is worse than making things up.

Or maybe that is just me.

It's not that I think nit-picking is bad... it's nit-picking over a game of toy soldiers.

I reserve serious thought for serious matters. This ain't one of 'em.

Gwar! wrote:Furthermore, your blatant personal attack (Calling me Arrogant) is unwarranted and not permitted. I am not arrogant. Arrogance implies I am wrong a lot but think I am right, whereas I am actually right pretty much 100% of the time, because I rigidly stick to rules that can be cited and backed up, rather than making up rules to play along with RaI.

Reference: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogant

* Main Entry: ar·ro·gant
* Pronunciation: \-gənt\
* Function: adjective
* Etymology: Middle English, from Latin arrogant-, arrogans, present participle of arrogare
* Date: 14th century

1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner <an arrogant official>

I see nothing in the definition about being correct. Arrogance denotes pride and exaggeration of self worth. I thing stating that you are not arrogant because you are always right... well let the reader decide.

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Oh, and to the OP: You can if you and your opponent decide you can. End of story.

Gwar! wrote: So much rage from the RaI camp over something so easy to work around and not cheat while doing it.

Using words like "Cheat" to describe someone that does not take the literal interpretation stance is pretty much donning the rage cap yourself.



Speaking for myself I think the whole argument is highly amusing. I could care less about what's "Right" or "RAW" and more worried about what's fun for me and my opponent. I'd gladly let a DH opponent take a LRMBT. They're rear armor 10 and my Power Klaws can take them out that much easier.