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im disappointed no one put a topic about this your all crazy.
I cant w8 flying mounts over azeroth? amazing werewolf as a new rce even cooler.
classic place being destroyed do to a great disaster. i cant w8.
how bout you guys.

garret wrote:im disappointed no one put a topic about this your all crazy.
I cant w8 flying mounts over azeroth? amazing werewolf as a new rce even cooler.
classic place being destroyed do to a great disaster. i cant w8.
how bout you guys.

No , this is dakka *2 we only support warhammer online.

anything else not made by Games Workshop , we burn the heretic!!!!
(*wispers WoW is my favorite MMORPG as well , i cant wait for worgens , might play again.)

WTF!?!?!?!


Ok, the Goblins, I'm fine with, but Worgen? Might as well ruin the entire notion of Alliance being all "noble" and just throw in whatever they think is cool.

I was hoping murlocs would be an option ... to think they use Worgen instead. I dont mind playing werewolves, but its just weird
since EVERYONE loves murlocs!

Blizzard are just raping Warcraft for money now. Not only was WoW bad in the first place, now they've added both a furry race and a race that isn't even meant to be fighting anyone. Not to mention fething up a well-designed world and kicking the lore in the nuts.

Worgen weren't even a big part of the lore. They were a small group of people who were cursed and inhabited a little castle in Silverpine Forest, not a race in their own right.

Blizzard don't care about gamers anymore. They've become greedy money-grabbers. I remember when I first played Warcraft II as a kid. That was the best game I owned back then, and it's still great nowadays. Diablo II and Warcraft III (which did have a few plot holes) were their last good games, apart from Starcraft: Ghost, which would have been awesome if they'd gotten off their arses and fixed the bugs a bit.

Now Warcraft has become Generica: Swords, magic, and elves, Diablo is all colourful and well-lit, and Starcraft is too cartoony.

What made WoW bad ? other then people crying about pvp inbalance?

It's generic fantasy.
Classes have never been balanced.
'New' monsters are just old ones with different colours or textures.
Blood Elves and Naga were completely boned after Frozen Throne and their return was badly justified.
Illidan was almost cloven in two by Arthas in Frozen Throne. He shouldn't have survived.

I could list more complaints, but that'd just result in the people who haven't played the old games flaming me.

Angst against Blizzard all you want, but at least wait for Diablo to be released and played before
hating on the feel.

I've never heard of anyone complain about class imbalance once you are above 2000 rating bracket .

Conclusion: Ppl are simply not playing to their maximum potential blizzard made them to be.

I played diablo 3 at Blizzcon last year, and the feel was kickass. it's certainly not all bright and shiny like you're making it out to be. Plus, the combat gave it a much more visceral experience. As Malf says, try it before you knock it.

As for Cataclysm - a redone Azeroth is something that players have been clamoring for for a while, and I think that if done well, it'll be spectacular.

Orkestra wrote:I played diablo 3 at Blizzcon last year, and the feel was kickass. it's certainly not all bright and shiny like you're making it out to be. Plus, the combat gave it a much more visceral experience. As Malf says, try it before you knock it.

As for Cataclysm - a redone Azeroth is something that players have been clamoring for for a while, and I think that if done well, it'll be spectacular.

1) Diablo's combat isn't meant to feel 'kickass', it's meant to be a lone adventurer (or a few if you're online) battling the elite of hell. Trying playing Diablo 1 and you'll see what I mean. You die pretty fast, and bosses are actually challenging (fething Butcher).
2) What, Azeroth wasn't redone enough when WoW was released? Wasn't it good enough being able to explore Northrend, Silverpine and Khaz Modan, which hadn't been given much detail in older games?

Blizzard have degraded.

Man I miss the old diablo feeling. Not knowing whats around the next corner and opening a door to find yourself being chased by 10+ overlords.....

Back to the subject. I don't know, I've watched people play WoW and it has a certain feel to it. Changing the areas perminately and making them look they have been already destroyed ruins the whole feel for me.

WoW was ok before the first expansion.

Damn am I happy i quit.

Tbh I was watching Blizzcon online live and could have posted here that first night.. but I knew what the reaction would be so didn't.

To each his own, I love the game and hate MGS (all versions) as I think its a boring game. Which on some forums would get me burned at the stake.

Basically can't wait, and Worgan for me is win as I'm a Werewolf the Apocalypse player and I can introduce some of my npc's as WoW chars.

If i played WOW i would make a worgan named terry... *rimshot*

LunaHound wrote:
I've never heard of anyone complain about class imbalance once you are above 2000 rating bracket .

Conclusion: Ppl are simply not playing to their maximum potential blizzard made them to be.

It's because the 2000 rating bracket is always full of the same classes.

Hence, there's no real "imbalance", just the same ol' crap.

and as for Worgen...
I've loved all the tears that are coming from the Horde in regards to it, along with their complaint that they're "only getting Goblins".

They've been bitching for years that they NEED a small race akin to the Gnomes.
Now that they get it, but Alliance get Worgen( a second large race, mind you, to bring it closer to the same general sizing identification profiles as Horde, ex: 2 large races, 3 human sized races, and a tiny race)---it's a TRAVESTY! And Alliance is favored, yadda yadda yadda.

Apparently, they didn't read the part where Worgen are Human outside of combat, and shift inside of combat or you have the option of being in the Worgen form outside of combat also.
Or that the Forsaken are laying siege to Gilneas and its lands beyond the Greymane Wall.

/shrug.

I dont like Murlocs Luna... They Scur me D:

I want to be a murloc.

Mmmmmgurrrrgl!

Kanluwen wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
I've never heard of anyone complain about class imbalance once you are above 2000 rating bracket .

Conclusion: Ppl are simply not playing to their maximum potential blizzard made them to be.

It's because the 2000 rating bracket is always full of the same classes.
.

I cant speak for others but i can speak for myself ,
Druid Hybrid :( full pvp gear started at season 2 , 2150+ rating ) ,
Paladin Retribution :Karazan gear ( 1800+ ) ,
Warlock Afflic / Demon :Started season 3 , 2020 +,
Shaman Elemental and Resto : started season 2 , ( 2100 + ),
Rogue Karazan gear , ( 1900 + )
Hunter BM / MM : ( oldest char , but never liked it much , 1900-2000 back and forth between the seasons )

Not to mention half of those i listed belong to teams that hired me to carry their rating .
So i still stand by its people not playing to the full potential blizzard gave their class .

Im also very active in cross realm pvp prior to december 2008 , my shaman used in beating other gladiator ranked players = InvulAngelina

About WoW making money grabs....

They are a company, they are supposed to make money. Just like GW.

I've been waiting to use that one.

cripes! You'se kids be mega impressive... best I can do is like 1650 when I was Arena-ing with my Warrior back during season 3 or 4...

/shrug

Arena's easy, provided you're playing with someone who isn't slowed or you're on a joke of a battlegroup.

I ran a Mutilate/Feral team to 2500 in S2 before people got us disqualified for selling spots to carry 'em.

Finally they revisit old world, making it playable again for higher ups.

worgen-- dear god furries, why lord, why
goblins- because horde wanted a gnome sized race.
archaeology- um, what?

omfgwtf doom and gloom and exploding durotars!--...right, because this would happen if a dragon aspect went on a rampage.

I will look at updates with a scrutinizing eye.

What the hell is with the constant furries reference to Worgen?

They're werewolves. So what?

It's not like they put it in for you wackjobs who get off on manbeasts.

Get over it. There's not many other races they could have added, since they're adamantly refusing to add in High Elves as coming back to the Alliance.

PS:
How much do you know about the Dragon Aspects?

Because things like, y'know...being the warder of an elemental plane(Earth, in Deathwing's case) and then opening it up to all the pissed off elementals and ripping a rift open between the plane and the material world...

That never ends well, in any game system.

Kanluwen wrote:What the hell is with the constant furries reference to Worgen?

Didn't you hear? Its been proven that your MMO character preferences determine your sexual orientation.

Everyone that plays a female character? Transexual.
Everyone that plays a Goblin or Dwarf? Midget fetish.
Everyone that plays a male? Gay.

Get over it. There's not many other races they could have added, since they're adamantly refusing to add in High Elves as coming back to the Alliance.

and yet high elves are in epl and on board the alliance zeppelin in icecrown.

as far as additional races are concerned:
panderan
naga (who are essentially mercenaries to behgin with in parts of the backstory)
they could have done playable murlocs after that chain in northrend
furbolgs
tuskar
ogres

there are a multitude of races they could have done, and all could have been justified. Worgen frankly dont make sense. They were a group of cursed individuals trying to survive in their little greymane castle. The only thing they have going for them is a natural hatred of forsaken- which the rest of the alliance share.

Goblins make sense from warcraft 2, but I was used to them being neutral in wow, this kind of skews things.

Ultimately, blizz is trying to give the player base what they want-alliance wanted a furry beastman race like tauren, and horde wanted a small gnome like counterpart. Thats great and all, but retconning their games is kind of a slap in the face to players who play to be immersed in back story.

What the hell is with the constant furries reference to Worgen?

Im sorry if I offend, but thats just personal hatred bleeding through. where I go to university that group of people are quite obnoxious, trying to stake claims on certain spots of campus for "furry refuges" and the majority of them play tauren for the sake of playing a furry. Im sorry, but after a while that yiffing talk and gak gets old

I quit WoW after playing almost 5 years a couple months back. The main reason the game still does so well is because, despite the redundancy and how fkn boring it is now, people can't seem to let go. I've known many people who quit 4-5 months and come back just because they can't seem to let it go; I was the same.

Blizzard has all but ruined the lore. The justification for Dreanei and Blood elves coming back was terrible; the fact that BE's stole a demi-god is pretty unreasonable; and they are killing off every charecter we grew to love from WC3. They have already stated they are going to polish off every known big baddie to make way for... well, what exactly? I loved Vanilla WoW. It felt like an adventure, raiding was a blast, and all the classic jokes (i.e. leroy, frost shock, illegal danish, the screaming onyxia dude, etc.) was awesome. WoW wasn't a main stream thing, it was still a gamer thing. But now its like everyone and their mom has a level 80 of 4+ classes.... no longer am I playing with gamers who I enjoy to play with, but jocks who have an hour before football practice so we're rushing a heroic, or the 12 year old who has to go to bed so we have to replace him for naxxramas.

I think WoW died with WotLK. It was a poor expansion, complete with very little "new" content, raiding that's dull, and pvp that is still (and never will be) imbalanced. Blizzards going to Milk wow for all its worth, long time fans be damned. Which is fine. Seeing as a Warhammer 40k MMO is in the works I really could care less. I'll play the hell outta the 40k mmo! Hopefully its not as dull as warhammer online @_@

The_Chaplain wrote:
Ultimately, blizz is trying to give the player base what they want-alliance wanted a furry beastman race like tauren, and horde wanted a small gnome like counterpart. Thats great and all, but retconning their games is kind of a slap in the face to players who play to be immersed in back story.

Can't see how either is retconning anything myself. Goblins as you said have been in the Horde before, its long been known there are other Goblin groups apart from the Steamweedle Cartel, so this new faction requires no explanation.

As to the Worgan, any doubts are kicked into touch by Blizz saying they come from Gilneas. It's a former Alliance ally, stuck right next to where the Worgan are, so infection spreads like wildfire and bang race is there.

Thats not retconning, thats new info as the timeline continues, cause you know, games sometimes evolve and all that.

WoW is easy mode. Plain and simple.

eh... i MIGHT pick up a month of WoW to see what this is like.



the real problem for me is that i dont like playing any class other then hunter for any real ammount of time... i love having a pet to tank for me while i can heal it, and then there is feing death if it gets to bad.

but i HATE wow goblins... i will be sure to lvl up my NE hunter to go gobbo hunting.