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I’m hoping that trailer is just from the first episode. I don’t like trailers showing too much. To be fair, the House of Mouse have been pretty good with that for SW and the MCU. They’ve even thrown in scenes different from the final product.
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Ray Park can't catch a break with Maul he doesn't even do the voice for the animated version they might motion capture him again like they did for the Clone Wars final season.
I don't know. Rex seems kind of wide. Of course Rebels uses somewhat stylized animation, so the comparison isn't perfect.
Considering Rex was retired for a time, sat around in a walker all day and seemed to eat well while Boba led the hobo life on Tatooine between Episode 6 and Mandalorian, I don't think their body shapes are even supposed to match.
Voss wrote: So... how much screen time (over the course of the season) is going to be devoted to him taking the helmet off or putting it on?
I'm thinking a good 10-15 minutes.
I'd say one way takes an average three seconds in the trailer, so six seconds on and off. He'll do that when he's got some important conversations or needs to react to something dramatic happening in the scene, but the helmet is also important in other conversations, so he won't go overboard on it. I'd say four, maybe five times per episode. Make it five because it makes the math easier, that's thirty seconds per episode for a total of four and a half minutes. Maybe up that to five to be on the safe side, if some episodes are significantly longer than others as in the Mandalorian.
The more important question is, if we're seeing the criminal underworld, what are the odds of Hondo showing up? Or maybe Azmorigan? Would be cool so see a live action Jablogian.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: He didn’t even do the voice in Phantom Menace. That was Peter Serafinowicz.
One has to assume at this point there's a reason no one lets Ray Park speak in his movies and just uses him as a top tier stunt man. It's not like Star Wars is the only instance of this. Line delivery or something, I'd wager.
So apparently Crimson Dawn was originally planned as a live action show but Disney/Lucasfilm have dropped Ray Park after the Instagram incident and swapped to animated instead with Sam Witwer to reprise the voice work. I guess that’s mocap out as well.
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Geifer wrote: I don't know. Rex seems kind of wide. Of course Rebels uses somewhat stylized animation, so the comparison isn't perfect.
Considering Rex was retired for a time, sat around in a walker all day and seemed to eat well while Boba led the hobo life on Tatooine between Episode 6 and Mandalorian, I don't think their body shapes are even supposed to match.
Voss wrote: So... how much screen time (over the course of the season) is going to be devoted to him taking the helmet off or putting it on?
I'm thinking a good 10-15 minutes.
I'd say one way takes an average three seconds in the trailer, so six seconds on and off. He'll do that when he's got some important conversations or needs to react to something dramatic happening in the scene, but the helmet is also important in other conversations, so he won't go overboard on it. I'd say four, maybe five times per episode. Make it five because it makes the math easier, that's thirty seconds per episode for a total of four and a half minutes. Maybe up that to five to be on the safe side, if some episodes are significantly longer than others as in the Mandalorian.
The more important question is, if we're seeing the criminal underworld, what are the odds of Hondo showing up? Or maybe Azmorigan? Would be cool so see a live action Jablogian.
Eh. Hondo is the kind of character that's not terrible in certain kinds of animation, when they're kicking up the 'funny' vibe.
In live action, he'd be pretty intolerable. Especially since this show seems to want to take itself seriously, despite being about Boba bumbling his way into controlling Hutt territory (which, without plot armor, seems like a bad time). He'd be like the weird 'hard cuts' that Lucas did mid-film to random fart or burp jokes.
The New Canon Novel “Bloodlines” hints that Leia’s strangling of Jabba, and his part of the cartel crumbling greatly upset the balance of power within the underworlds. Hutts were shown to be fallible, and may have paid the price.
It’s a pretty enjoyable novel overall. If you can get it a free digital copy on Kindle or whatever, defo give it a read.
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Also who's to say that Boba is expected to hold on to his claim. As protagonist of the show I expect him to succeed short term, not the least because they went against the memes in Mandalorian and tried to make him look good. But that doesn't mean that his reign has to last. Maul's power grab didn't. But it sure was interesting to see and added something to the story. Boba's story could be set up as interesting filler for a period of time that is not canonically explored with no guarantee that a lasting syndicate comes out of it that can hold its own against the established, big ones.
On Hondo, as much as I agree that Boba is going to get a serious spin, I don't know if they can (or should) resist adding some humorous scenes. I can well imagine Hondo appearing in a heist or smuggling episode as a helper or middle man and give the serious characters something to grind against. It doesn't have to get to Jar Jar levels of slapstick, especially since Hondo also had his serious moments in Clone Wars.
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It was a joke, but if we're serious about it for a moment, I don't think hideously outclassed and outgunned is a worry of mine. Goons will be goons and basic troopers in Star Wars exist to make the heroes look good. As a convention that's just what you expect to see. I don't think underworld enforcers have even had an iconic moment that compares to getting beat up by teddy bears with pointy sticks, so getting the same abuse as Stormtroopers isn't really an expectation of mine, but even though Endor is possibly the most memorable low point for troopers, it's not really what I'm concerned about. It's ancient history by now.
Now, disclaimer time. I like the shows we got in recent years, thought they were cool and fun and got a lot of enjoyment out of them. However, there are a few instances where even though I acknowledge that Star Wars runs on rule of cool, the creators took things too far from established depictions. With my previous Stormtrooper comment I was largely thinking of the Mandalorian episode where Boba shows up for real while Grogu makes his long distance call. While I did not experience the fight scenes with the Stormtroopers to have as much of a negative impact on second viewing, owed to knowing what was going to happen and having adjusted my expectations, it stands out that the Stormtroopers go out of their way to let themselves get beat up by an old man with a whacking stick.
This is not the only instance where troopers mysteriously forget how to shoot blasters. When the Bad Batch is introduced in Clone Wars, and later in the first episode of their own show, apparently it's a sound tactic to walk up to large droid formations and poke them with a knife. It works, too. Spectacularly so because apparently once you're in their face, a whole platoon of B1s just sits around and patiently waits for you to stab them. Blasters? What blasters? Interestingly the first outing of Clone Wars had a scene during the battle of Christophsis where a clone engaged in melee with a droid, punched it in the face, screamed in pain and held his hand, and then got shot by the same droid.
It's fine for laser sword wielding maniacs with mystical powers to get away with stabbing things to death, but that aside Star Wars has been fairly good at establishing blasters as superior weapons. It's not always consistent but is usually used to effect to establish danger to the heroes by not allowing them to walk merrily into blaster fire or engage in melee because they know they're perfectly safe from getting shot there. The aforementioned examples stand out pretty starkly and exemplify my idea of hilariously incompetent troopers. It's fine if troopers can't match the heroes. It's expected. They don't have to be good at what they're doing or make good decisions all the time, but at least they have to be shown to try. Otherwise it's just... well, I laughed when I watched the scenes, but more out of sense of desperation and the hope they were slip ups and not indicative of what to expect from future episodes.
So yeah, doesn't have to be Stormtroopers even though they have a history that makes them prime candidates if the creators decide there is a need for a dodgy fight scene. Underworld enforcers fit the bill just fine for Book of Boba. I just hope we won't see any more of those comically bad scenes, is all I'm saying.
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Stormtroopers incompetence reached new lows in Mando, totally turned me off the show.
I know they got beaten up by Ewoks (imo, amongst the worst part of the OT), apparently the initial script was meant to be Wookies? That would have made it all so much better. But people seem to forget how easily they punched through the Tantive IV soldier.
I know they got beaten up by Ewoks (imo, amongst the worst part of the OT), apparently the initial script was meant to be Wookies?
The story at the time was that they ran into budget issues (those fur costumes are expensive) and making them little teddy bears instead of Wookies saved a lot of money and as a nice bonus was infinitely more marketable.
Lucas's revised history is that Wookies had been shown to tech-savvy (based on the single Wookie seen in the first two movies being able to use tools) so they couldn't be the required low-tech opponent for the Imperial forces, and that it was difficult in the '80s to find enough willing bodies that were the right size.
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