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That's a very cool blaster, kind of a Firefly vibe to it as well, with the mixed metals, wooden stock ect.

   
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The more I see, the more I want to see.

Thus far, everything is looking wonderfully utilitarian. The Mando itself, the rifle, the sets.

Definitely the ‘used’ galaxy we all know and love. Ships still remain a litmus test though! I’m hoping for a new design myself, but would be happy with ones plundered from the sketch book and old EU.

Just....not the Moldy Crow. Punishing One would be ideal.

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As I understand it, the exact location of the sight is slightly less important than how accurately the sight is dialed in to where the gun actually shoots to. All other things being equal, yes, top mounted is slightly better, and when a tenth of a degree arc results in an inch or so over a hundred yards it does matter... with a gun. Who knows how much, if any, difference it would make with a blaster firing plasma bolts at around 180 mph.

And, as has been pointed out, the tuning fork on the end would cause problems with a top-mounted scope. The offset scope might also be easier to sight through when in Mandalorian armor. Or it might be a remote sight, with the aiming reticule displayed in the helmet.

We'd have to see it in use to draw any more conclusions beyond 'rule of cool'.

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One assumes that with any scope, it’s all tweaked and calibrated to the user, including any allowance for where it’s actually mounted?

And that’s not allowing for any kind of software type shenanigans where a digital camera knows to centre itself to a specific offset?

Though provided this image hasn’t been flipped, looks like The Mando is a lefty like me. Though probably not politically lefty as I are.

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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
How did they not look Mandalorian? We've seen Asian Mandalorians and Caucasian Mandalorians, New Zealand Mandalorians could be a thing.


Yeah, lets not forget that mandalor is a planet. Not a country. There are distinct differences in the features on people descended from England and France let along different continents. There is zero reason that anybody from any culture couldn't play any human from any planet in SW.


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Somewhat connected, but it looks like the rumoured Boba Fett movie has been dragged down to the lowest pits of production hell https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-boba-fett-movie-is-apparently-dead-just-like-boba-1830026621. So get ready for lots of speculation that the Mandalorians guy in the armour is Fett

After being pleasantly suprised by the Solo movie I'm a little disapointed by this news. A loosly connected series of scum and villany films each focusing on different characters could have been fun, especially if it meant more of Donald Glovers Lando.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Shockaroonie, article writer thinks the Boba movie going away is good and closes out on that quote from TLJ that every single upjumped listicle-farming hack in geek media uses to decry any Star Wars stuff that still vaguely resembles Star Wars.

It is a shame if true, I was also looking forward to the hinted "scum series" of Story movies, but it does seem the cynics have "won" again with the prediction that Solo flopping would be taken as a mark against Solo and the anthology films generally rather than the more accurate assessment that it was down to a combination of garbage marketing & buzz management, stiff competition from other geek movies, and fans who'd lost faith in Disney 'Wars after TFA and/or TLJ.

I really, really hope this show is good enough and Star Wars'y enough to make up for whatever nonsense comes next with the films.

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With regards to the scope, Mando helmets DO include rangefinders and targeting gear (it's what that antenna part that flips down is part of) - so they don't need to hold the scope to their eyes (helmet would get in the way, anyway)

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I've no problem with Boba Fett appearing in the Mandalorian at some point but he better not be the Mandalorian I'd rather that he's a different character and suspect he will be.

Boba would be 42 at this time so he could play one or more of several roles - mentor, rival, colleague, antagonist. they'd likely have to recast as Temuera Morrison is 57 so he'd be to old to play a 42 year old Boba, if the helmet never came off it wouldn't matter who played him.
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
Shockaroonie, article writer thinks the Boba movie going away is good and closes out on that quote from TLJ that every single upjumped listicle-farming hack in geek media uses to decry any Star Wars stuff that still vaguely resembles Star Wars.

It is a shame if true, I was also looking forward to the hinted "scum series" of Story movies, but it does seem the cynics have "won" again with the prediction that Solo flopping would be taken as a mark against Solo and the anthology films generally rather than the more accurate assessment that it was down to a combination of garbage marketing & buzz management, stiff competition from other geek movies, and fans who'd lost faith in Disney 'Wars after TFA and/or TLJ.

I really, really hope this show is good enough and Star Wars'y enough to make up for whatever nonsense comes next with the films.


Episode 9 sales will tell the tale. I suspect they're going to be even more disappointing than TLJ sales were, but probably not as bad as Solo.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Vulcan wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Shockaroonie, article writer thinks the Boba movie going away is good and closes out on that quote from TLJ that every single upjumped listicle-farming hack in geek media uses to decry any Star Wars stuff that still vaguely resembles Star Wars.

It is a shame if true, I was also looking forward to the hinted "scum series" of Story movies, but it does seem the cynics have "won" again with the prediction that Solo flopping would be taken as a mark against Solo and the anthology films generally rather than the more accurate assessment that it was down to a combination of garbage marketing & buzz management, stiff competition from other geek movies, and fans who'd lost faith in Disney 'Wars after TFA and/or TLJ.

I really, really hope this show is good enough and Star Wars'y enough to make up for whatever nonsense comes next with the films.


Episode 9 sales will tell the tale. I suspect they're going to be even more disappointing than TLJ sales were, but probably not as bad as Solo.


I dunno, it depends how well Disney can control the narrative. Of the three main issues with Solo, better management of the first could have mitigated the third quite a lot - ie, if more disappointed fans had the impression that Solo would end up being what it eventually actually was - a solid entertaining adventure movie that does what it says on the tin - they might have been willing to risk buying a ticket. As it was, a lot of the info & rumours coming out pre-release made it sound like it would be a total disaster and the marketing was almost nonexistent.

It could trend up again relative to TLJ; people who liked TLJ will go and see it regardless, so will the hyper-casual "what's on that I can use to silence the kids for two hours/waste an evening with my mates" cinemagoing audience, so the variable are the disappointed and dejected element of the fandom - not the tiny minority of rabid OT ultrafans or the even tinier minority of actual bigots who are routinely presented as being the only people not to enjoy Disney Wars, but the portion of the larger mass of casual fans who just thought TFA and/or TLJ were a bit gak and who've downgraded SW to "I'll catch it on Netflix" level. If they can be convinced that Ep9 is looking like a return to form it'll do well, if not your prediction is probably more likely.


Honestly though(to drift vaguely back towards the topic ), I'd almost rather The Mandalorian not only ends up being good, but does so well for Disney that they choose to invest the resources that were going towards the anthology films to TV productions instead. I loved Rogue One, but imagine what they could do with that kind of concept as a "Band of Brothers"-style "prestige" TV series like The Mandalorian. An Obi-Wan film would be cool, but you could get more mileage out of the "wandering Samurai/western" conception of his time in exile on Tatooine than one movie, it'd be great as a three episode "event miniseries". Star Wars isn't the MCU, I don't think it would be able to support Disney's initial desire of 1-2 movies a year every year even if TFA and TLJ and Solo had all been universally well-received and solid box office earners, but there's no reason Disney can't use the streaming TV side of things to produce their own "nuEU" with all the extra ideas.

Plus the more development of the setting moves to the TV side, the more control over it Filoni has and frankly I trust him to steer things right far more than I do the rest of the Lucasfilm management.

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 Vulcan wrote:
Episode 9 sales will tell the tale. I suspect they're going to be even more disappointing than TLJ sales were, but probably not as bad as Solo.


Hoh Disney has it nice if 1 billion profit is dissapointing sales.

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tneva82 wrote:
 Vulcan wrote:
Episode 9 sales will tell the tale. I suspect they're going to be even more disappointing than TLJ sales were, but probably not as bad as Solo.


Hoh Disney has it nice if 1 billion profit is dissapointing sales.


After $1.4 billion in ticket sales from TFA, yes, it was disappointing.

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Sequels almost always do significantly worse than the first. Often loosing 50% or more of the profit margin of the previous entry. Going from 1.4 billion to 1 billion is both good and expected.

I know a lot of you didn't like the movie but I think it's very egocentric to keep assuming your dislike has had some kind of major impact when we are talking about profits in the 10 figure range.

Terminator
Budget: 6.4m
Box office: 78.3m
71.9m profit. made back 11.2x it's budget.

Terminator 2
Budget: 94-102m (Lets call it 98)
Box office: 523.7m
425.7m profit. made back 4.3x it's budget.

Alien
Budget: 9m-11m (lets call it 10)
Box office: 104.9m - 203.6m (lets call it 150)
140m profit. Made back 14x it's budget.

Aliens
Budget: 17m-18m (17.5)
Box office: 131.1m-183.3m (lets call it 157.2)
139.7m profit. made back 7.9x budget.

SW Episode 7.
Budget: 306m
Box Officer: 2,068b
1,762b profit. Made back 5.75x budget.

SW Episode 8
Budget: 317m
Box Officer: 1,333b
1,016b profit. Made back 3.2x budget.


It looks like a fairly predictable and consistent pattern to me. Even when many consider the second movie to be better than the first.


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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Somehow, I doubt Disney are using 80's action/horror franchises as their yardstick for success.

What Disney thought they were buying with Star Wars - however unrealistic their desire - was another Marvel Cinematic Universe. MCU sequels almost always make either about the same money as their predecessor, or substantially more, with the only real outlier being Age of Ultron. Dropping a quarter of a billion dollars off the box office of the previous installment is definitely not what they had in mind.

Also, you seem to have misunderstood what folk were saying(a common thread among TLJ advocates) - it's Solo's box office people are proposing was impacted to some extent by some people's dislike for TLJ, not TLJ's. That's not egotism, it seems a pretty reasonable interpretation of what's happened.

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Let's not turn this into another round of hating on TLJ. It's been done to death.

The topic here is the live action series.

   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
Somehow, I doubt Disney are using 80's action/horror franchises as their yardstick for success.


Starwars
Budget: 11m
Box Office: 775.4m
764.4m profit. 69.5x budget (gigity)

Empire Strikes Back
Budget: 18-33m (Lets say 25.5m)
Box Office: 534.1m-538.4m (Lets say 536m)
510.5m profit. 20x budget

You were saying?

I used films that had generally considered better sequels. 80's action horror wasn't the criteria. That pattern holds across all genres and all eras. It is incredibly rare that any movie breaks the mold.

What Disney thought they were buying with Star Wars - however unrealistic their desire - was another Marvel Cinematic Universe. MCU sequels almost always make either about the same money as their predecessor, or substantially more, with the only real outlier being Age of Ultron. Dropping a quarter of a billion dollars off the box office of the previous installment is definitely not what they had in mind.


I can agree that I think Disney execs wanted to turn SW into another MCU. But they have a history with sequels themselves. And the sequels have stuck to the pattern. Go look up and do the math on the Pirates of the Carribean movies. It looks the same.

Also, you seem to have misunderstood what folk were saying(a common thread among TLJ advocates) - it's Solo's box office people are proposing was impacted to some extent by some people's dislike for TLJ, not TLJ's. That's not egotism, it seems a pretty reasonable interpretation of what's happened.


I didn't misunderstand, and I don't care how anyone actually feels about the movies. Ive said it before, it IS unreasonable for you to think you had that kind of an impact on solo. Again, much more reasonable, it released after reports of troubled development, next to no promotion, and just after Infinity War and just before Deadpool 2. The bulk of the money...and by bulk I mean you guys who decided to boycot might make up a % or 2, of the money a movie makes comes from the general audiences. And the general audiences are not running out every week to watch a movie. And even if they were they are doing it for things they know about without reading news articles on the internet they have to search for to know the movie is coming out.

I LITERALLY responded to someone talking about TLJs box office directly. Here, il quote it for you.

 Vulcan wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 Vulcan wrote:
Episode 9 sales will tell the tale. I suspect they're going to be even more disappointing than TLJ sales were, but probably not as bad as Solo.


Hoh Disney has it nice if 1 billion profit is dissapointing sales.


After $1.4 billion in ticket sales from TFA, yes, it was disappointing.


I think YOU misunderstood.

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 insaniak wrote:
Let's not turn this into another round of hating on TLJ. It's been done to death.

The topic here is the live action series.


Do people not enjoy TLJ?

You’d think they’d have said something about it by now.

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 Ctaylor wrote:
You can’t subtract the production cost from the box office total to get the profit. Remember that the theaters take their cut (roughly 50%, but it varies by movie and over time), and there are substantial advertising costs. A movie has to make between 3x and 4x its production cost to start making a profit.

Of course, there are other revenue streams (like VOD, streaming rights, merch).

But that’s why the recent Ghostbusters remake was such a huge flop. It only did $229m box office with a $144m budget. It needed around a $400m BO to make money.

A good article with the basics of movie econ:

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/093015/how-exactly-do-movies-make-money.asp


Yes.

I know.

There are many factors that determine ultimate profitability of a movie. But we were not talking about that. We were talking about box office performance and what that could mean.

TLJ had predictable box office performance. And in fact was on the higher end of the expected. It in fact did great for a second movie in a trillogy. Calling its performance "disappointing" is denying the basic math and decades long trends.


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This really isn’t the thread to do the whole TLJ thing again it’s already got at least 2 threads locked.

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 Ctaylor wrote:
Okay, if you're not talking about profit why are you using that word? It's misleading. I'd suggest "net".

I didn't mention anything about disappointing BO for TLJ. I don't really have an opinion about that.

I do have a pet peeve about people calling "gross BO - budget = profit" when talking about the movie business. It's not right. Comparing gross BO to budget is interesting indicator of a film's success, but doesn't tell the whole story.


I know you didnt. Vulcan did. I quoted it. Its the posts i was responding to. Our little back and forth isnt happening in a vacuum. I started with the things you are criticizing when i responded to somebody else.

Be pet peeved. It wasnt the point i was making. You didnt like the terminology i used? Good. Fine. Its not actually important and besides the point. I dont and didnt disagree with you about what actual profit ends up happening. It just wasnt the figure i was responding to.


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And, again, the topic here is the live action series, not the box office performance of TLJ. Drop it, people.

   
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When I first heard about this show, I was like "neato burrito", so here's a list of things I hope they'll do with the Mando show.

1. Introduce more astropolitical factions in the Star Wars universe. Whether they create some new ones, borrow some from the old EU (like the Chiss Ascendancy, Hutt Cartel, new CIS(?), New Sith Empire(?), etc.) or a mixture of both is fine by me. As long as those governments have flags, I'm a happy camper. Perhaps we could see some ship designs for the New Republic. Especially if these new factions (along with the New Republic) could show up as governments-in-exile represented by the Resistance as a whole, depending on how much of the Galaxy the First Order has occupied.

2. Introduce new space ships. Especially if they give the Mandalorian Empire (or whatever they end up calling the Mandalore polity in the show) a fleet of starships of their own which could be sold as merchandise for the Legion, Armada and X-Wing war games.

3. Borrow "heavily" (not the Mary Sue/Gary Stu aspects) from old EU Legends lore regarding Mandalorians. Such as the line of succession of Mandalores, Basilik War Droids, Old Republic history, whatever you can think of. As long as it mixes some old stuff with some new stuff really well, then that's fine by me.

4. Get some linguist to flesh out the Mandalorian language like they did for the Klingons from Star Trek.

These are the things I could think of at the top of my head at the moment of writing this. Perhaps I'll add more if I think of any new ideas. But we'll just have to wait and see about that.

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Better make the thread title plural second live action series announced focusing on Cassian Andor before Rogue One (after would be difficult in fairness ) Diego Luna to reprise the role.

https://www.starwars.com/news/cassian-andor-live-action-series-announced
   
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Gonna be honest, I have no real interest in a prequel for Cassian Andor. I liked him well enough, but there wasn't enough in Rogue One to make me want to see more of the man. His story was neatly summed up. Scarred intelligence vet, has blood on his hands, doesn't necessarily like it, died a hero. Yeah feels kind of complete to me.

How bout a Lando TV series with Glover? I'd give that a shot. Give the guy some right direction and I think he could carry it.

   
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Stop going backwards. All the most interesting bits are what happens next.


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 Lance845 wrote:
Stop going backwards. All the most interesting bits are what happens next.


Or go way backwards.

I'd watch Young Yoda, or even a stories about the Republic at the height of it's prosperity 500 or so years BBY.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:
Stop going backwards. All the most interesting bits are what happens next.


Or go way backwards.

I'd watch Young Yoda, or even a stories about the Republic at the height of it's prosperity 500 or so years BBY.


Why? We already saw yoda jumping about. It was ridiculous. Surely yoda rising up through the ranks, being a teacher, being a diplomat, sitting around and meditating during long years of relative peace,... That CANT be the most interesting bits. Especially when we already know how his story ends.


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