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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 09:55:57
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 13:50:03
Subject: Re:[Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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I only had time for the first 3 last night, but:
The Duel
Tatooine Rhapsody
The Twins
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 13:53:53
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Trigger always over explains their nonsense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 14:01:11
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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True true. I guess I'm more accustomed to it in something more story driven. Stood out more here where it was more of a pure animation spectacle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 18:01:29
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
Scotland, but nowhere near my rulebook
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Oh, wow.
I'm 4 episodes in, and think that not binge watching all of this at once may be the way to go.
But The Duel has kind of spoiled the rest for me. The whole series opened up STRONG as far as I'm concerned. It's very, very obvious that the logic is "Star Wars was based off black and white Akira Kurosawa films. Let's just make a black and white Akira Kurosawa Star Wars episode"
Village in the sticks, bandits over the hill, villagers hiring mercenaries, wandering Ronin, the whole entire thing. Utterly marvellous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 18:19:15
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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You say that, but the fifth one seems to be regarded as the most popular from what I’ve seen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 20:42:04
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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AduroT wrote:You say that, but the fifth one seems to be regarded as the most popular from what I’ve seen.
The Ninth Jedi thus far seems to be receiving near universal praise along with what I suspect is the desired demand for more.
And having had a day, feth it. I will shill this gak.
The Ninth Jedi is the most authentic, enthusiastic, and original piece of Star Wars media since Knights of the Old Republic. By setting itself hundreds of years after RoS, it does exactly what many disillusioned fans would have preferred from the sequel trilogy; an entirely new story in an entirely new Star Wars galaxy. The Ninth Jedi goes even further than that though. It recaptures the air of wonder and mystery that came with entering a galaxy far far away for the very first time. It's an entirely new world. Anything can fething happen, but it's still authentically Star Wars where it counts.
You can feel how badly I.G. wants this for every minute of the show. They want to make more and they're begging Disney and the fans to give them the chance. I really want them to have it. Those 20 minutes of the Ninth Jedi, were the most I've loved Star Wars since before TLJ murdered my enthusiasm. Since then, Star Wars isn't something I particularly enjoy. It's just another thing to do. Another piece of media to consume. Stuff like Bad Batch and the final season of Clone Wars were okay, maybe even good, but not good enough to break the malaise I've felt. Even the Mandolorian, which is fantastic, still feels like it's trapped in trying to be something I want rather than actually being something I want. A piece of media so filtered through a corporate lens that it feels like it has less of a soul.
I want more Ninth Jedi and I'm not going to apologize for it. That short makes most of everything else this franchise put out in the past decade look like mediocre 'it kills the time' slop it is. If you watch the extras, the director for the short outright says he wants to make more and you can see the hunger is in his eyes. I really hope fans rally around the Ninth Jedi because I'm ready to see what I.G. will do. They've already shown more heart and love for Star Wars than basically everything Disney's in-house teams have put out since getting the franchise.
This is my hill and I will die on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 21:22:19
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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I have heard almost these exact words elsewhere. I'm looking forward to watching it tonight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 21:37:22
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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LordofHats wrote: AduroT wrote:You say that, but the fifth one seems to be regarded as the most popular from what I’ve seen.
The Ninth Jedi thus far seems to be receiving near universal praise along with what I suspect is the desired demand for more.
And having had a day, feth it. I will shill this gak.
The Ninth Jedi is the most authentic, enthusiastic, and original piece of Star Wars media since Knights of the Old Republic. By setting itself hundreds of years after RoS, it does exactly what many disillusioned fans would have preferred from the sequel trilogy; an entirely new story in an entirely new Star Wars galaxy. The Ninth Jedi goes even further than that though. It recaptures the air of wonder and mystery that came with entering a galaxy far far away for the very first time. It's an entirely new world. Anything can fething happen, but it's still authentically Star Wars where it counts.
You can feel how badly I.G. wants this for every minute of the show. They want to make more and they're begging Disney and the fans to give them the chance. I really want them to have it. Those 20 minutes of the Ninth Jedi, were the most I've loved Star Wars since before TLJ murdered my enthusiasm. Since then, Star Wars isn't something I particularly enjoy. It's just another thing to do. Another piece of media to consume. Stuff like Bad Batch and the final season of Clone Wars were okay, maybe even good, but not good enough to break the malaise I've felt. Even the Mandolorian, which is fantastic, still feels like it's trapped in trying to be something I want rather than actually being something I want. A piece of media so filtered through a corporate lens that it feels like it has less of a soul.
I want more Ninth Jedi and I'm not going to apologize for it. That short makes most of everything else this franchise put out in the past decade look like mediocre 'it kills the time' slop it is. If you watch the extras, the director for the short outright says he wants to make more and you can see the hunger is in his eyes. I really hope fans rally around the Ninth Jedi because I'm ready to see what I.G. will do. They've already shown more heart and love for Star Wars than basically everything Disney's in-house teams have put out since getting the franchise.
This is my hill and I will die on it.
This is excellent feedback and criticism.
I agree that it was a solid entry, and one can only hope that The Powers That Be will be watching the feedback for what did and didn’t widely land with the audience. To have a significant time jump would be nice, with the actions of the Republic, Rebellion and Resistance being mythological would be cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/23 21:56:27
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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We know it's possible.
Almost as soon as Visions was announced we got an announcement that The Duel would get a tie in novel and I don't think it's a coincidence that The Duel was the first short in the anthology. There was clearly a great deal of confidence in it even before it was finished. It's not hard to see why. Star Wars reimagined as something Akira Kurosawa would have made is pretty slick and refreshing in many of the same ways the Ninth Jedi is. The Duel though doesn't leave me wanting more. I might check out the novel for its novelty and because the vagabond or ronin or whatever he ends up being called is an interesting character. I'm curious what his motivations are after the short.
Of the other shorts, Ninth Jedi and Lop and Ocho are the two where you can hear the studios that made them begging for the chance to do more. I'm not so hot on Lop and Ocho. It's good but set in a time and place I'm already meh on, and feels very derivative at the same time. I've seen that story before, several times. The only big difference is that its set in the Star Wars universe and has a bunny girl in it. It's good but do I hunger for more? Not really. I really really want more Ninth Jedi. The short itself is basically a pilot episode laying out the series and its principal characters and conflicts and I want to see it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/24 14:11:22
Subject: Re:[Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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LordofHats Does Not Dream of Bunny-Girl Jedi?
Saw the rest, thoughts below.
Village Bride
The Ninth Jedi
T0-B1
The Elder
Lop & Ocho
Akakiri
I'd probably rank them 1 5 7 3 4 2 9 8 6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/24 15:00:38
Subject: Re:[Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Preacher of the Emperor
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After blowing through all of them in an afternoon I was ready to say they had front-loaded the piece with the 'bad' ones and shuffled The Duel to the front to keep people interested - but looking back on it now I can't really say any of them are 'bad' at all. Each studio was clearly giving their A game and the resulting animation is consistently movie quality from front to back.
I find it funny that after all the talk about whether or not this would be canon - and all the gravitas people invest in that status - the only one that really feels willing to step out of that box is The Twins, and I fully expect some future Star Wars novel to mention a Star Weaver concert or the ancient Sith lord Masago, or Vaan and the wanderer F at some point in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/24 16:08:13
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
Scotland, but nowhere near my rulebook
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I think the absolute worst thing you could do with The Duel is explaining the main characters motivations. He just _is_
What bit of background would make him better than he his now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/24 16:18:14
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Indeed. After all, Sith is a religion, not a specific lifestyle.
For instance, in the real world, we have major religions with many different faiths within them.
Without comparing any to Sith ideals? In Christianity, you have Roman Catholics, Protestants, Anglican, Evangelical, Mormon and Jehovah’s Witnesses to name a few which spring immediately to mind. Some believe the Bible is allegorical. Some believe the Bible is literal. Some interpret different passages in different ways.
So to think all Sith are moustache twirling evil gits? That’s not necessarily correct. The Duel demonstrates that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/24 17:02:48
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I don’t think he ever actually called himself Sith, did he? Iirc he just responds to them assuming he’s a Jedi by showing off the red saber, and let’s them infer for themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/24 18:19:52
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, its mostly implication. The only certainty seems to be that he's hunting Sith, but there's a lot of mystique in the why. Is he a Jedi seeking vengence or actually trying to do good? Is he a Sith devoted to the rule of 2? I kind of agree that any answers are probably less than the questions, but they are very interesting questions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/27 10:31:37
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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He also gives one the red crystals he collected to boy. I honestly feel like the protag is more of a hunter. He seemed to imply that he wished he could be a jedi, but understood it would never happen and instead devoted himself to defeating any Sith he encountered, and he clearly had encountered many Sith in his travels.
My favorite part of the Trigger episode was the main characters not needing space suits in space, but the droid having a little space helmet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/27 21:09:29
Subject: Re:[Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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I understand that reference, though I haven't watched that series XD
But yeah. It's not bad. I've just seen that plot before dozens of times and I kind of shrug at the idea of seeing it again. In of itself it doesn't grab my attention much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/28 10:59:06
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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So, a question.
From Visions which, if any, of the tales would you like to see more of?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/28 11:15:41
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/28 13:59:43
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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A lot of them share a similar time, place and aesthetic feel. The Duel, The Village Bride, The Elder, Lop & Ochi, and Akakiri could all be expanded along similar lines, or even exist together to a degree.
Ninth is far and away the one that most wants to be its own thing though and while I think it gets a little sloppy with its crew dynamics at the end to cram it all in, a couple of adventures with the new team could solve that rather quickly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/29 04:41:10
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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So.... I just learned there's Japanese audio for these.... Now, I'm not a sub purist. I actually greatly prefer a good or even sometimes average dub a lot of the time, but at the same time, don't really have a problem with subtitles if there's a better performance. Upon learning this, I immediately sought out the two I think are dramatically improved with Japanese audio:
Tatooine Rhapsody
Still not the most exciting of the bunch but the song at the end is totally worth revisting. There is legitimate passion behind the lyrics and it makes the whole thing way more fun and engaging.
The Twins
So.... the change in voice acting may have bumped this one to the top of my list. A lot of the Trigger stuff works better in Japanese just because the frantic action and camerawork is synched so specifically with the cadence of the dialogue, but the difference here couldn't be greater. Where the English is pretty bored and almost confused, the Japanese brims with that intense bravado Trigger is known for. This one is just sooooo good with a voice track as loud and energetic as the action on screen; definitely going to be watching it again and again.
Curious if any of the others improve quite as much as these two. I suspect they're better, but these two are a LOT better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/29 14:43:02
Subject: Re:[Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Ninth is definitely the one I want to see more of. Or even know more of - it seems perfect for a game setting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/29 16:18:16
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Book of Boba Feta Cheese is coming on 29 December 2021.
Wee bit later than I expected if I’m honest, but still tantalisingly close!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/09/29 20:36:19
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Book of Boba Feta Cheese is coming on 29 December 2021.
Wee bit later than I expected if I’m honest, but still tantalisingly close!
They've tweeked the armour design so it's not as matt and is a bit more dinged up which I approve of, the Mandalorian season 2 armour was just too flat and clean looking. Still hoping they show how Cad Bane put the dent in Boba's helmet at some point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/10/03 16:42:34
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Giving the Lego Star Wars Halloween show a try.
So far, so good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/10/04 14:02:29
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Fixture of Dakka
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It's cute and fun. Definitely aimed for the kiddos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/10/04 17:28:04
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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I really enjoyed "the wookies paw" and the "how he became kylo ren" stories.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/10/04 17:43:09
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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The Lost Boy is a solid win for me, because it’s namesake is one of my favourite films ever!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/10/05 22:25:19
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Kenobi cast pp71
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Surprisingly I'm enjoying the Visions a lot. Only up to ep 4 so far, but Tattoine Rhapsody was the weakes, while Trigger...I mean, it's Trigger, you know what you're getting into with them, and they delivered it in spades. The 4th episode was also quite good.
Honestly, it's the most I've enjoyed Star Wars in...probably a decade? It puts episodes 1-3 and 7-9 of the movie series (no longer trilogy, duh) to shame in sheer entertainment value and worldbuilding.
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