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I know it's corny, cheesy, but it just confirms how much I love the Halo Franchise. Less Halo Wars, that was a stinking piece of crap.
Yes this is hype, but it's really nice. It's dramatic, emotive, and tells a story. I think, along with the "Hunted" advert for Halo 3, this is some of the best Video Games advertising that is out there.
I count Halo:CE as my first Video Game, definately my first FPS. I love the series, I love the backstory, but some parts just seem to spoil it all for me. This is not one of them.
"And what is wrong with their life? What on earth is less reprehensible than the life of the Levovs?"
- American Pastoral, Philip Roth
Oh, Death was never enemy of ours!
We laughed at him, we leagued with him, old chum.
No soldier's paid to kick against His powers.
We laughed - knowing that better men would come,
And greater wars: when each proud fighter brags
He wars on Death, for lives; not men, for flags.
I'm likin' that "We Are ODST" video.
But Bungie does always go out of their way to make cool lead-in trailers, and they usually have something to do with a lead-in for the game itself(the "Hard Landing" one for Halo 3, for example, was the ODSTs and Marines painting the Chief with a targeting laser to find out where he was gonna impact). And man...the diorama they made for it was amazing too.
I don't see Halo as being particularly superior. True, it had a story, but generic sci-fi with a unique aesthetic (brutal and pristine at the same time) doesn't really have the makings of a good film.
Let's also not forget that any live action film will do the unthinkable: reveal Master Chief's face. Unless of course it doesn't focus on the big MC. In which case it'll just be Starship Troopers 4.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Because they'd never do something like showing it from the perspective of a Marine fighting alongside the Chief, right?
dogma wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
I guess Children of Men was a ripoff of An Inconvenient Truth too, huh?
So, you're analogical rebuttal is based on the comparison of two movies from entirely different genres. Right.
It's "your", first of all.
And it's no different than comparing a poorly executed sequel to a movie that had nothing to do with the source material(other than ZOMG! Giant, smart bugs! fightin' humans! Winner!) to a pretty different universe, huh?
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for a Killzone flick:
It would work, but it would come across as nothing more than "super-pale Space Nazis!!111!" to people who who haven't played it.
Much like Halo would come across as "generic sci-fi troopers fighting generic sci-fi aliens".
Edited for quoting shenanigans, screw you sleep-deprivation.
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Kanluwen wrote:
Because they'd never do something like showing it from the perspective of a Marine fighting alongside the Chief, right?
If the Chief is significant to the story in any way, it will most likely mean that the story focuses on the Chief.
Kanluwen wrote:
It's "your", first of all.
Pedantry. The first sign of a fanboi.
Kanluwen wrote:
And it's no different than comparing a poorly executed sequel to a movie that had nothing to do with the source material(other than ZOMG! Giant, smart bugs! fightin' humans! Winner!) to a pretty different universe, huh?
No, its very different, because we're talking about movies. And, inevitably, any Halo film will be in the same genre as Starship Troopers.
Kanluwen wrote:
It would work, but it would come across as nothing more than "super-pale Space Nazis!!111!" to people who haven't played it.
Much like Halo would come across as "generic sci-fi troopers fighting generic sci-fi aliens".
Yes it would. However, the poster I replied to only asked for Saving Private Ryan in space, so....
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
You come in here, spouting that a FPS movie "wouldn't work, because Doom proved that", and then go on to say Killzone, which while having a marginal story at best, would make for a good movie?
As for your comment about "any Halo film will be in the same genre as Starship Troopers", I highly doubt it.
Was Stargate put into that genre? For that matter, was Farscape put into that same genre?
Oh hey, what category was Serenity put into? What about I Am Legend, that MUST have been a zombie movie!
A Halo movie COULD be done well, and these shorts have been very good proof of it.
Hell, that's the whole reason District 9 came about. It's been a testing bed for the technology and the director who've been signed on for a Halo movie since Halo 2 was released.
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As for the "fanboi" remark?
I'm a far bigger fan of Mass Effect and FEAR, with inFamous and Hellgate London close behind, than Halo.
However, I can put my bias in "zomg my game>yours" aside to sit down and realize "Hey, this story COULD work"
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You come in here, spouting that a FPS movie "wouldn't work, because Doom proved that", and then go on to say Killzone, which while having a marginal story at best, would make for a good movie?
I didn't say it would be good. I said it would/could be Saving Private Ryan in space.
Kanluwen wrote:
As for your comment about "any Halo film will be in the same genre as Starship Troopers", I highly doubt it.
Was Stargate put into that genre? For that matter, was Farscape put into that same genre?
Stargate? Yep. Farscape? No. Farscape was a TV show.
Kanluwen wrote:
Oh hey, what category was Serenity put into?
Space opera.
Kanluwen wrote:
What about I Am Legend, that MUST have been a zombie movie!
It was. The book wasn't, but the movie was.
Kanluwen wrote:
A Halo movie COULD be done well, and these shorts have been very good proof of it.
Maybe, but I doubt it.
Those shorts aren't proof of anything though. Ripping off Marine commercials is not proof of theatrical merit.
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, that's the whole reason District 9 came about. It's been a testing bed for the technology and the director who've been signed on for a Halo movie since Halo 2 was released.
District 9 didn't have a particularly engaging story either. It was a cool movie, but it wasn't really a good movie. Though it did benefit from an original concept, which Halo doesn't have.
Kanluwen wrote:
However, I can put my bias in "zomg my game>yours" aside to sit down and realize "Hey, this story COULD work"
It could work, but that doesn't mean it will work well. Tomb Raider could work as a movie, and yet we're left with the Tomb Raider movies...
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Games are not good movie fodder because each and every person experiences the game in a different way. Uwe Boll, curse the witch with cancer and cholera, works in this mindset and I hate to say that I agree with his point of view on game movies. Not that I approve of his movies of course.
A Halo movie would disappoint a lot of people I think, but to a hard core of fans it could be a great fan service. However, movies are there to cater to everybody, not just a small niche, especially when it's about something as big as Halo and the ability to draw in even more people.
Reason I don't like the Halo 3 commercials is because they promise you a lot and in return you get crap. Again, this my opinion. I was suckered into buying Halo 3 because of those life action commercials and I feel stupid for falling for them. Same old, same old.
i agree with brookm to a certain degree, but i think the jackson halo movie could have been done well, but it wont be done now, halo's just not as big as it was a few years ago.
The only thing this 'proves' is that it is possible for the special effects to be of high enough standards for the action to be convincing. We didn't need this vid for us to know that.
What a Halo movie will need is a convincing enough plot and well put together script. This far more than any other factor.
Starship Troopers worked because it was fully aware of what it was and was brilliantly tounge in cheek. Had it tried to take itself to seriously it would have been laughably bad.
Thats why Halo (and 40K for that matter) will never make good movies. The core fans will never allow the humor required for it to be a good movie and the end result will be nothing more than war porn that appeals mainly to teenage boys.
"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!"
Halo has its on sort of film / Cartoon.
Red VS Blue is about the closest they will ever come to making something, allthough, its worth watching
The ODST origional trailer (DL it on the 360) was amazing, but still had a pretty unreal feel too it due to some dodgy physics (another thing that makes halo amusing to play)
If your looking for a game that looks just like a film then buy killzone 2 for the PS£.
The graphix make real life look like gak
Automatically Appended Next Post: Lucius, just a quick note here, but you will find there are more halo 3 tournament players than there are 40k tourney players Its a huge market and people are happy to travel half way round the world for a tournament.
Me on the other hand, i find it amusing to play when i have friends over for a drink lol
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor.
I actually like these live action promos. Loved the ones for Halo 3. Those promos and the music are the only things that are actually decent about the franchise thus far.
Armies:
(CSM/HH) - Iron Warriors; Death Guard; World Eaters; Night Lords
IG - Vestfalian Expeditionary
Force (Solar Auxilia - HH)
SM - Blades of Inaros (Homebrew)
DE - Kabal of Ouroboros
Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor.