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Please my team is loosing and I was humiliated I need to WIN

MM/HF Speeders. Landraiders. AC/HB Predators. Vindicators. Flamers. TH/SS Terminators. AC/AC Dreds.

So by your sentence, idk if you are playing a game NOW and you are being humiliated or wtf you mean lol.

EzeKK wrote:MM/HF Speeders. Landraiders. AC/HB Predators. Vindicators. Flamers. TH/SS Terminators. AC/AC Dreds.

GRAMMAR POLICE SAYS LTS!

Wait wouldn´t it be more usefull a double heavy flamer dread and an Ironclad dread
Its actually for this campainghttp: //www.wargamez.com.ar/foro/warhammer-40-000/mini-campana-la-herejia-de-konrad-8266.html
My pals are fighting for the glory of the emperor against the french fries bastards and we are losing(beacause they have older or chesier players)
Any way if you want to take part in the campaing please DO IT
The emperor protects but we Must too protect the emperor

Capricorn Caver wrote:

EzeKK wrote:MM/HF Speeders. Landraiders. AC/HB Predators. Vindicators. Flamers. TH/SS Terminators. AC/AC Dreds.

GRAMMAR POLICE SAYS LTS!

Wait wouldn´t it be more usefull a double heavy flamer dread and an Ironclad dread

No because orks can actually take out dreds with lootas and PK's and kannons etc. They can't do jack %*$& against a LRC W/ TH/SS Terminators inside and HF's backing that up.

1500 points of "I hate orks"

190
Vulkan He'stan

220
10 Man Marine Squad
Flamer, Heavy Bolter
Combi-Flamer
Razorback w/ TL assault cannon

180
10 Man Scout Squad
Sniper Rifles

540
7 Man Terminator Assault Squad
Land raider Crusader

185
Ironclad Dreadnought
2 Hflamers

150
Scout Bike Squad
-3 Astartes Grenade Launchers
-Cluster Mines
-2 Extra Bikers


CAUTION!
This is a generic anti-horde vulkan list with some extra flavor in the form of an ironclad dreadnought and the scout bikes, that are specifically anti-ork tactics. This will not work very well at all vs battlewagon spam, nob bikers, etc. This will work well against generic speed freaks, horde orks, or even a squad of diversified nobs if played right.

REMEMBER: your list is only a tenth of the battle, your enemy is another 1/10, and your skill is the rest.

My pals are fighting for the glory of the emperor against the french fries bastards and we are losing(beacause they have older or chesier players)

Cheese is the cry of someone who lacks skill. They are better players than you are, don't be a sore loser, and learn from your mistakes.

EzeKK wrote:

Capricorn Caver wrote:

EzeKK wrote:MM/HF Speeders. Landraiders. AC/HB Predators. Vindicators. Flamers. TH/SS Terminators. AC/AC Dreds.

GRAMMAR POLICE SAYS LTS!

Wait wouldn´t it be more usefull a double heavy flamer dread and an Ironclad dread

No because orks can actually take out dreds with lootas and PK's and kannons etc. They can't do jack %*$& against a LRC W/ TH/SS Terminators inside and HF's backing that up.

The guy I´m fighting just doesn´t have those things
Still also do you think deathwind missile drop pods would be useful



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Canonness Rory wrote:

My pals are fighting for the glory of the emperor against the french fries bastards and we are losing(beacause they have older or chesier players)

Cheese is the cry of someone who lacks skill. They are better players than you are, don't be a sore loser, and learn from your mistakes.

No really he brought 20 nobz 120 boyz zoghwort and a warboss
How do I fight that
And he cheated too

lol. If he actually cheats, then why are you playing with him? Get a 3rd party to lay the smack down on the rule breakers or something.

I'm getting a sore loser feel. 140 boys means you better have brought the flamers BIG TIME. Sit back, relax, and start the machinegun fire. Post your list and his please.

Canonness Rory wrote:
Razorback w/ TL assault cannon

Wait, razorbacks can take an assault cannon?


I personally would recommend actually not going for cheese (bikes of doom, Land Raider Rush, ect, no none of that)

Unless you use 2-3 Vindicators. What people seem to forget about the Vindicator is it's gun has a comparatively short range, so it isn't as cheesy as it sounds to take 3 of them.

Edit: By cheating do you mean he randomly turned your captain into an angry squig? Because that's actually hilarious and in the Ork Codex.

EzeKK wrote:I'm getting a sore loser feel. 140 boys means you better have brought the flamers BIG TIME. Sit back, relax, and start the machinegun fire. Post your list and his please.

My list
Pedro Kantor
troops
4x 10 marines tactical squads(2 with flamer/missile launcher:2 with flamer/heavy bolter)
scout squad 1( 9 snipers;1 heavy bolter; camo cloaks)
scout squad 2(8 snipers;1 heavy bolter; torias telion; camo cloaks)
heavy support
3x whirlwinds

for heavies, rock out with 3 thunderfire cannons... deploy them behind some rhinos, so they can't be shot by lootas first turn... then kill all the lootas, then focus on the boyz. one salvo should end a whole squad of 30.

take a unit of TH/SS terminators in a raider to deal with nobz... take assault marines to handle boyz squads.

and then your good.

starbomber109 wrote:

Canonness Rory wrote:
Razorback w/ TL assault cannon

Wait, razorbacks can take an assault cannon?

Yes, they can.

Capricorn Caver wrote:No really he brought 20 nobz 120 boyz zoghwort and a warboss
How do I fight that
And he cheated too

You fight the horde of boyz with a vulkan list if you really want to cheese it up, or ANY anti-horde list.
You fight the cheating by calling him out on it.

Horst wrote:for heavies, rock out with 3 thunderfire cannons... deploy them behind some rhinos, so they can't be shot by lootas first turn... then kill all the lootas, then focus on the boyz. one salvo should end a whole squad of 30.

take a unit of TH/SS terminators in a raider to deal with nobz... take assault marines to handle boyz squads.

and then your good.

Here I send you the list. It´s in spanish
Cg:

Kaudillo(60)+garra(25)+armadura pezada(5)+garrapato de ataque(15) = 105
Viejo Zwgot = 145

Total = 250

Elite:

10 nobz(200)+armadura pezada(50)+matazanos(30)+trukk(35) =315
10 nobz(200)+armadura pezada(50)+matazanos(30)+trukk(35) =315

Total = 630

Linea:

30 chicoz = 180
30 chicoz = 180
26 chicoz = 156

Total = 516

Apoyo pesado

Camion zaqueado(35) + kañon buum (70) = 105


TOTAL= 1501
Anyway
i´M TAKING 2 ironclad dreads with flamers
2 tacticas with heavy bolters and flamethrowers
4 drop pods with deathwind
assault termies and a librarian(help me with the power and explain wich will be useful in this situations)
And 3 thunderfire canons

For those unfamiliar, that seems to be:

Boss, PK, HArmor, Attack Squig
Zoggy
2x10 Nobz, HArmor, Big Choppas?, trukk
86 boyz
Zaap Cannon+Boomgun

Very not cheesy.
Take reg terms w/2 cyclones, Libby, GoI, Power to taste.

librarian(help me with the power and explain wich will be useful in this situations)

I would take the Quckening and Gate of Infinity with Orks

@Ed_Bodger:
At least explain why you would take it.

Quickening seems wasted, do you really need the high initiative, most likely no.
Do you need to fleet, most likely no if he's with a squad.

Gate: I can only see this used for getting the drop on orks interms of shooting, and then escaping combat to shoot them point blank with flamers.

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For a libby, prob. Avenger will be a direct offensive ability that's good against hordes.
There's really nothing worthy in the second slot....prob. gate for the above reason.

My 7 Cents.

Iron_Chaos_Brute wrote:For those unfamiliar, that seems to be:

Boss, PK, HArmor, Attack Squig
Zoggy
2x10 Nobz, HArmor, Mad Dok, trukk
86 boyz
Looted wagon+Boomgun

Very not cheesy.
Take reg terms w/2 cyclones, Libby, GoI, Power to taste.

quite a good translation my friend it was zoggy along with 20 nobz
So i take 10 termies 2 drop poded squads(with deathwind) libby and what else

EzeKK wrote:

Capricorn Caver wrote:

EzeKK wrote:MM/HF Speeders. Landraiders. AC/HB Predators. Vindicators. Flamers. TH/SS Terminators. AC/AC Dreds.

GRAMMAR POLICE SAYS LTS!

Wait wouldn´t it be more usefull a double heavy flamer dread and an Ironclad dread

No because orks can actually take out dreds with lootas and PK's and kannons etc. They can't do jack %*$& against a LRC W/ TH/SS Terminators inside and HF's backing that up.

As an Ork player you just listed my greatest BANE!! I hate them so much. . .

If your facing a horde army, go with templates. As people have mentioned: flamers, whirlwinds, etc..
If your facing mech horde, the answer is to crack his vehicles as early as possible so his smaller units of boys are walking.

Either way, go mech. Mech is harder for orks to deal with, and gives you a nice edge.

labmouse42 wrote:If your facing a horde army, go with templates. As people have mentione: flamers, whirlwinds, etc..
If your facing mech horde, the answer is to crack his vehicles as early as possible so his smaller units of boys are walking.

Either way, go mech. Mech is harder for orks to deal with, and gives you a nice edge.

yes that´ll be useful
Another doubt with template do I use for the deathwind missile launcher the 80mm or the 120 mm one?

Bring 4 landraider redeemers.

It makes Ork players go into fits.

bring grey knights.

seriously, they RAPE FACE when it comes to orks.

regular knights with incinerators decimate boyz.

grey knight terminators destroy nobz, if you lead them with a chaplain (SM/GK hybrid is best)

mount your whole army up in crusaders. you cannot fail!

Horst wrote:bring grey knights.

seriously, they RAPE FACE when it comes to orks.

regular knights with incinerators decimate boyz.

grey knight terminators destroy nobz, if you lead them with a chaplain (SM/GK hybrid is best)

mount your whole army up in crusaders. you cannot fail!

I´ll take 5 pods simply

leave the deathwind launchers at home. They cant fire when you arrive, and you are probably in CC with the target unit the turn you can fire it. It's 20 pts apiece, and you can get a lot more anti-ork stuff with those points.

Land Raider rush is the easiest way to do it. 2-3 Land Raiders full of awesome backed up by 3 Vindicators or Dakka Preds is enough to ruin any Orky day.

On the list of "good but not great" I would put tri-Whirlwind, or even 1-3 Thunderfire Cannons. Properly used and supported, the TC's can use the shot that causes difficult terrain tests, forcing his Boys to delay the charge in several places, or risk getting strung out and assaulting in pieces. If that happens, use bolter and flamer to punish the leading edge.