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The Great State of Texas

Something I just read. To everyone except Malfred, how would you handle this? (I should be clear this is not moi-just read the event)

Frazzled surmises:
Malfred: socks....do you have any socks...
Mad Doc Grotsnick: AYDD bash hi hewda a kaffe unagrablle haggis! (what???)
Iorek. I refuse to asnwer on the grounds it would slow down my drinking.
HBMC. Pah, we made our own codexes you daftmonkeys.
JohnnyH: tournaments are bad. But this situation doesn't involve tournaments. So it is good.
Frazzled: BLAM BLAM BLAM Get off my lawn you punks! Er, what did you say sonny?
Killkrazy: I'd D20 it and see if this is a monster from my Fiend Folio. I don't remember creating a "need a ride monster."
MeanGreenstompa: I don't remember being at the Oktober fest, but how did I get home exactly?

This will probably be a bit long. Comments and/or suggestions on how I could have handled things differently are welcome.

Last night I went to Oktoberfest with my ex-wife and her best friend. (Yeah, I know, but we've become friends again since the divorce).

As we left the gated area and were walking back to the car, we remembered we hadn't had a funnel cake yet. The girls went back inside to get the funnel cake and I decided to stay outside and sit on a bench just outside the exit. The bench had another bench directly behind it, and the backs of the two benches were touching. On the second bench was a guy, about 25-ish.

I sat down on the bench and took out my iPhone to kill some time while I waited on the girls. The guy then asks me "Where you coming from?"
Me: "Excuse me?"
Him: "Where you coming from?"
Me: "Just leaving here and heading home"

He waited about a minute and said "I need a ride home"

I ignored him, then he reached over and touched me on the arm. "I need a ride home"
Me: "Sorry, man, can't help you"

He waited a few more seconds, then reached over and touched my arm again. "I need a ride home to Oak Cliff"
Me: "Sorry, going the opposite way"

A few seconds later, he reaches over and touches me again. "I need a ride home"
Me: "Look, I said I can't help you. Leave me alone"

He then got up from the bench. I thought this was the end of things. But when the girls came through the exit, he made a beeline straight for them and said "Take me home". Note that there were maybe two dozen other people also walking out the exit at that time, and he didn't approach any of them. He went straight for the girls I was with. Must have watched them walk back in when they decided to get a funnel cake.

The girls ran straight to me and each girl grabbed one of my arms. My ex said to him "Sorry, we're with him". The guy then turned and walked away. I again thought this would be the end of things with him.

As we walked down Addison Circle to the area where the apartments and shops are, we decided to sit on one of the circular benches to eat the funnel cake. As we were sitting, I noticed the same guy sitting on a bench about 15 feet from us, glancing our way every now and then. As we were finishing up the funnel cake, he got up from the bench and walked straight towards me. Before he could say anything I said "No. I've already told you no. Leave us alone". He then walked around to the other side of the bench and sat down.

We all got up from the bench, and I decided to walk the girls to their car, as I didn't want them walking alone with this guy around. As we get up from the bench and start walking, the guy gets up and starts following us. I noticed this, turned around and said "Get away from us - now!" He continued walking straight at us, so I said again - louder - "Stop following us and get away. Now!" He continued coming at us with both his hands in his pants pockets. I should mention that he was wearing baggy pants with large front pockets that could easily have concealed a weapon.

After the second time, I reached down, moved my shirt from my gun, and grabbed the grip of my gun. I then pretty much shouted "STOP! TURN AROUND AND WALK AWAY FROM ME! NOW!" He then pulled his hands out of his pockets and put them in the air, but continued walking towards us! I again shouted "DO NOT COME ANY CLOSER! TURN AROUND AND WALK AWAY!" He kept his hands in the air, but continued walking to us. I shouted "GET BACK! TURN AROUND AND GET BACK!" The third time he stopped.

By the way, this was in the middle of the area where all the shops are in Addison Circle. It was very well lit. There was not a cop anywhere around - strange since Oktoberfest is crawling with police. I figured if a cop was around he would have come to see what the shouting was about, but nope. Never a cop around when you need one.

Since he stopped, I told the girls to head to the car. I followed them, looking behind me at the same time. He continued to follow us, but at a greater distance. When we got into the parking garage, they were parked on the second level. As we entered, I saw the guy walk by the garage and go down the street.

We went up to the second level and walked to their car. As we're standing next to the car saying our good-byes, HE COMES UP THE STAIRS INTO THE GARAGE AND STARTS WALKING TOWARD US! I again put my hand on my gun and stared at him, but didn't say anything. He started to angle around us, went to one of the corners about 50 feet away, and stood there watching us. The girls got into their car and left while I kept an eye on him. I then walked back to my car (which was in a different garage) and didn't see him again.

All in all, since I didn't have to draw or shoot and we all made it home ok, I call it a win. Any comments or suggestions on anything I could have done differently?

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2009/09/21 14:23:15


-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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*googles funnel cake as step one*

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Sounds like the guy was a loon and there was nothing much you could have done differently, in fact had you not acted in such a clear and assertive manner things could have turned out a whole lot worse.

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In your base, ignoring your logic.

I would say that I would've made it perfectly clear and would've told him that if he came closer I would fire, also, I wouldn't of turned my back on the guy if I had believed he had a firearm.

Luckily for me, I haven't dealt with any situation like this. Bravo to this guy.
   
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he handled it pretty well.

once again, guns save the day.
   
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So this guy who wrote the story, does he some how take down Skynet? Because that would make it a bit clearer.

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I for one am glad that I do not belong to that odd bunch at the top of the page. Spot on though with their little comments.

As for the story: Hmm, I don't know how I would react. But the guy did the right thing by escorting the ladies all the way. It might've been better to call the cops instead of reaching for a piece.

Then again, I can see that this will be a hot debate about you know what.

And yes, I must investigate this "funnel cake" as well, sounds delish.



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The Great State of Texas

FUnnel cake is proof, to children, of the existence of god. Oktoberfest is where the children come from.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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It does look delicious, hot dang. If babies are the price to pay I'm willing to give it a bite.



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But, but, it's not October yet!

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Still enough time to pack my bags, borrow a gun, become polite and try one of those delicious looking funnel cakes.



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This is kinda bollocks, it doesn't explain several things, most importantly how 'odd' the odd guy was.

How would I handle it? I'd have told the guy he was making the ladies feel uncomfortable and chatted to him and then walked him off a while away from the girls. He just sounds like a wakko and I've met lots of them and dealt amicably with them.
The dude sounds more Rev. Jim than David Koresh to me.
The situation may have been frightening but getting so close to shooting the guy? Weird to me, I'd have just talked to him and got him to piss off or wandered around the festival until I found a policeman and told him what was happening, with two female witnesses backing up the situation, I'm sure they would have pulled him aside for questions.



 
   
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Yeah,

what's odd is
He continued coming at us with both his hands in his pants pockets


..whilst I would have taken to to mean he did indeed have a hand on his weapon, said weapon--whilst not being something I'd have any desire to see-- wouldn't be a mortal threat as such.

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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Are people really going to beer festivals with handguns? Now that's the scary part there. The other dude just sounds like a bit of a lost soul/mentally ill/learning disability/high hippy/drunk loner.

Why the feth would you accompany 2 chicks to a drinking party with a fething gun?!?



 
   
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:Why the feth would you accompany 2 chicks to a drinking party with a fething gun?!?

One of them was his ex-wife.

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drinking makes everything better.
guns are awesome.

drinking makes guns more awesome.
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I think he did the right thing by brandishing the gun. Even though creepy dude deserved to at least be grazed by a bullet I'm glad he didn't get shot. They probably would have charged Frazzled's "friend" with some idiotic charge.

Funnel Cakes are so bad, yet sooo good. We've gone out of the way on more than one occasion to make/buy a funnel cake. I guess that's a Midwest thing as well. I've had them since I was a kid.

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Well if the guy was American, then THATS why he had a gun. Us Americans LOVE our guns. I honestly would of handled that the same way. Sometimes just calling the cops doesnt do the job. People can be down right F'ed up. You could be assaulted while on the phone with the cops.
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KingCracker wrote: Us Americans LOVE our guns.


Really ? I cannot for the life of me believe this hasn't cropped up before on the OT board.

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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Its actually a cite for pistol shooters. Some of them have CHLs and carry their pistols everwhere permitted.

To the story: Its a bit surprising that this occurred in the open. On reading I would initially thought he was a drunk, but later behavior makes you think nutjob/druggie. Nutjob druggie is dangerous.

Upon re-reading I realized we have a Moderator opportunity (the crazy guy). Coincidentally, I’d like you all to say hello to Ralph. He’s our new Mod. By the way, Ralph needs a ride home…

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Ralph can ride in the boot.



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I don't believe the story at all. How would I handle this? Find the person who made up the bs story and make him eat the paper he wrote it on while yelling in his ear "STOP WASTING PEOPLES' TIME WITH YOUR FOOLISHNESS!"

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Well it was being discussed in the context of: legal grounds to draw/use with commentary/discussions with LEOs. Based on the forum it wouldn't be fake.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Id have said yes, stuck the meter on and made me some money.

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No you would have said
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I reckon you'd gone done invite him to a hoedown, whatever one of those is.

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Come to think of it, you weren't hanging about Dallas way the other day, looking for a ride were you MDG?


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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I don't think so.

Though if I'd got pissed in the pub that night, there is absolutely no telling where the Beer Tardis might have taken me. Perhaps the Beer Monkey will know. After all, he must have known where I was when he messed up my hair, shat in my mouth and pinched £30 out my wallett.

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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I don't think so.

Though if I'd got pissed in the pub that night, there is absolutely no telling where the Beer Tardis might have taken me. Perhaps the Beer Monkey will know. After all, he must have known where I was when he messed up my hair, shat in my mouth and pinched £30 out my wallett.


That monkey sure does get about a bit

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