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I offered to play a game last night with a guy in my local gw, he seemed slightly unsure but said he'd have a game with me.

He was a verteran like gamer while this was only my 7th or something game.


First, he seemed to be getting increasingly bored while I was setting up. Then the game seemed to him to be a challenge of how enormously he could thrash me, without any focus on making the game enjoyable. He got very annoyed at for what I beleive to be understandable errors in the rules for someone relatively new to game. He then thrashed me to pieces without any talking or joking or anything and then ended the game and didn't even speak to me afterwards...

I felt really dejected after the game. All my other games against various opponents have been light-hearted and enormously fun (for both of us I think), and most of the people I've met through gaming have been lovely, kind people. I guess I'm just a very fragile person because this really got to me last night...


Is this a comman attitude among battle hardened veterans against beginners? Vent your rage here...

I'm realtively new to playing the game and only ever play against my brother on the odd occasion that he is in my part of the world (going to have a couple of games this weekend, woo!).

One of the reason that I don't really want to play anyone else at the moment is that I don't want to have a simmilar experience to your own. I know a lot of people seem to be pretty good, but there is always the chance you will get stuck with some bum hole, or have a bum hole hanging round your game being generally rubbish.

I think I would probably be pretty down if something like that happened with me too... all I can suggest is that you play a few more games, perhaps with people who you have played with before and enjoyed the game with to build yourself back up and get to grips with the rules a bit more.

Well done on having the confidence to play out in the wide world anyway

*locks all his doors and plays with his models*

SilverMK2 wrote:I'm realtively new to playing the game and only ever play against my brother on the odd occasion that he is in my part of the world (going to have a couple of games this weekend, woo!).

One of the reason that I don't really want to play anyone else at the moment is that I don't want to have a simmilar experience to your own. I know a lot of people seem to be pretty good, but there is always the chance you will get stuck with some bum hole, or have a bum hole hanging round your game being generally rubbish.

I think I would probably be pretty down if something like that happened with me too... all I can suggest is that you play a few more games, perhaps with people who you have played with before and enjoyed the game with to build yourself back up and get to grips with the rules a bit more.

Well done on having the confidence to play out in the wide world anyway

*locks all his doors and plays with his models*

Thanks for your sympathy!

I must add though that it IS worth playing games with strangers and getting into the community. As I said, only 1 in 7 or so of my games have been like that so far. I will avoid him from now on and not play him again. I've met two or three great guys in my games who I intend on playing many more times in the future - seriously, it's worth it!

There are dickheads everywhere and this hobby has more than it's fair share.

He will sneer in triumph and gloat and write up in his blog about how uber he is, you will just have to make do with enjoying a social life and getting together with friends and most likely having relations with the opposite sex, something this cretinous turds sounds unlikely to accomplish...Still, at least he'll know he's l33t...as he sobs into his pillow in the wee small hours of the night...

MeanGreenStompa wrote:There are dickheads everywhere and this hobby has more than it's fair share.

He will sneer in triumph and gloat and write up in his blog about how uber he is, you will just have to make do with enjoying a social life and getting together with friends and most likely having relations with the opposite sex, something this cretinous turds sounds unlikely to accomplish...Still, at least he'll know he's l33t...as he sobs into his pillow in the wee small hours of the night...

Interestingly, he doesn't seem to be too bad to non-beginners - he doesn't seem to have such a bad reputation there (on the surface at least...).

Piss. On. Him.

Nope, he must have just been feeling like a bitch that day. Ignore him and move on.

OP, unfortunately you have met TFG. Or at least someone on the verge of transforming into TFG. But, it kind of sounds like he was just having a bad day.

Meh, some people are fun to have games with. Some aren't. I'm guessing this guy wasn't.

If you have a friend who also plays go with them. Then you can laugh at the douches who you played afterwards.

IMO there are heaps of spankers in this hobby..

Stinky people (one guy who stank played nurgle lol)

People who take the fluff too seriously

People who are way too competitive

People who get irritated when you take too long or make a mistake

Plus
Normal people who can have a laugh and a good time win/lose

Inb4 causal gamer mafia comment..

Shaman is right, there are lots of unfriendly, overly tense people in this game. I am a veteran 40K player, but I must be in the minority because I will actually give tips to noobs who I play against, especially if they seem really open to taking advice.

I am an enforcer in the Casual Gamer Mafia!!

Gotcha!!

*gives warpcrafter the secret handshake*

Yea back when I used to frequent a FLGS one of the attitudes a regular gamer had was "to win at all costs because it feels so damn good to win against someone". Understandable that us guys have a drive to win but to sacrifice fun and sportsmanship in the process goes against the very spirit and nature of a friendly game. And unsportsmanlike people deserve a swift kick in the head.

Plenty of d-bags out there and in a community stereotyped as nerds lacking social skills its understandable that many players never learned the rules of sportsmanship. And on the internet its even worse especially first person shooters.

Yeah. I know some jerks who play. But I just taunt them.
"Were the goat's good last night?"

I am pretty ballzy though not the best cource of action. XD

I know if you lose it makes you look bad but imagine winning and much like cartman said drink their sweet tears of agony.
And think about it even with a uber army if you roll poorly it's nothing.

Perhaps Odin will praise your die and make you smash his face!

Blake wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:There are dickheads everywhere and this hobby has more than it's fair share.

He will sneer in triumph and gloat and write up in his blog about how uber he is, you will just have to make do with enjoying a social life and getting together with friends and most likely having relations with the opposite sex, something this cretinous turds sounds unlikely to accomplish...Still, at least he'll know he's l33t...as he sobs into his pillow in the wee small hours of the night...

Interestingly, he doesn't seem to be too bad to non-beginners - he doesn't seem to have such a bad reputation there (on the surface at least...).

In my culture , we have a saying 狗眼看人低 " a dog will view someone to be lower / shorter "

Basically he is the type that will ignore people that doesnt seem important to him and his gaming place.
And he is the type that will kiss your feet if you get along with the shop owner.

LunaHound wrote:In my culture

Canadian?

Sorry you had a bad experience. There will always be douche bags. That is why you should always bring a rusty chainsaw, not to kill, no that would be to much. More just to maim and frighten. I tell ya, I have never had an opponent be a jerk to me.

Shadowbrand wrote:Yeah. I know some jerks who play. But I just taunt them.
"Were the goat's good last night?"

I am pretty ballzy though not the best cource of action. XD

LOL, coming from a Slaanesh player!

Speaking from experience are we?

I did win the one time I did that. :3

His tears tasted like pina colada mixed with Maple syrup.... *Nerdgasm*

Don't be so harsh on the guy.

I have a tournament comming up in a week, one i'd very much like to do well in. I need to get some practice games in with my army. That means I would like to play against skillful, non-new opponents.

if i'm waiting for an opponent to show up, and someone new asks me for a game, i'll usually say yes, and try to get it over as soon as possible so if someone good shows up I'm free to play.

That said, I normally don't get annoyed at new people for making mistakes with rules, because they are NEW.... and unless I immediately start my next game, I usually try to give a few pointers after the game, though most people don't want to hear it and ignore it anyway.

This sorta gak used to happen to me all times.

Some advice:

1. Post your army list on Army list section for some useful advice.

2. Read a bit of YTTH Stelek can be a dill weed but he knows what he's talking about (Most of the time)

3. Plot your revenge, Ive now feared in my club by the people who smashed my arse into the ground when I first started.

Hmmm, Lord-Loss is starting to sound like on of those 'Belltower snipers' or something.
"They called me weak! They'll see! I'll show them!"

The head of our FLGS has almost never lost a match. (Only when he starts out with a new army) It quite frankly can get frustrating when no matter what you do your forces fall like wheat before a reaper. Despite that, he is without a doubt on of the most enjoyable and cordial players at the FLGS, never dissing your army, always making helpful remarks concerning what you might want to include next in your army list. This just goes to show that being a winner doesn't mean you have to be a douche.

Some people are like that. Obviously he thinks since your new, you arnt worth the time to talk to. The first gaming group I was in there was a guy like that. Was REALLY cool to the vets, total asshat to the newbies. But one night, prolly the best player in the group, gave me tips and generally helped me out. I ended up kicking the pants off the guy.
He wasnt as asshat after that. Still never liked the guy but still. Just enjoy the fun games you have with the guys that dont get off handing a new player his ass on a silver plate.

Ive seen 2 types of veteran gamers where I play...
1. They do what they normally do to win, but they have fun... joke around, have a good time etc

2. They take it easy on you cause your newer, help you through the rules, but they still joke and have a good time!

Never really seen any extreme gamers like you explained luckily D: Although I have seen those people that get pissy about loosing... start throwing their models around... asking you about rules like your lieing about everything... flipping off their own models... its rather annoying lol

It isn't whether you're a better or poorer player, it's about how much ego you have tied up in the game. The reason some folk take losing very badly is the same reason some folk treat new players or less successful players badly, because they define much of their personal worth to their ability win a miniatures game. It's no coincidence the same people show both characteristics.

I really like Luna's quote for summing it up (I had no idea the Canadians were so wise). He's being a rude jackass because he considers you lower in the social standings. While that's always an objectionable trait, it makes a little sense it was based on something that is very competitive, like football, or even a board game that plays well at a competitive level, like chess.

As it is, he's just some guy who's picked a mostly social hobby, then defines personal success by beating people who are for the most part in it for a bit of fun.


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Horst wrote:Don't be so harsh on the guy.

I have a tournament comming up in a week, one i'd very much like to do well in. I need to get some practice games in with my army. That means I would like to play against skillful, non-new opponents.

if i'm waiting for an opponent to show up, and someone new asks me for a game, i'll usually say yes, and try to get it over as soon as possible so if someone good shows up I'm free to play.

That said, I normally don't get annoyed at new people for making mistakes with rules, because they are NEW.... and unless I immediately start my next game, I usually try to give a few pointers after the game, though most people don't want to hear it and ignore it anyway.

Hang on, so out of a sense of kindness you play, rushing through the game because someone else might show up? What good does that do either of you, as opposed to not playing at all? Or playing, but at a small points value where you can get through the game reasonably quickly while still being able to stop and give advice?

Trust me, getting rushed through a game, hammered at every turn, and then when it's over being nicely told about all the mistakes you made... well that's a sucky experience.

You had one of these situations...

I remember once I was traveling through the countryside to see the leaves change colors. I found a hobby shop and happened to have an army with me. So I went in to play a game. The guy I played told me he was the best gamer around and he didn't want to waste time playing a newb. So I told him I played on a regular basis but had a friend's army I hadn't played before, would he mind playing. He said okay. While we are setting up a bunch of people come into the store and mill around the table. Everyone is kissing up to my opponent and telling me I am in for a thrashing. I just be quiet and the game begins. My opponent throughout the first half of the game is explaining in great detail how his tactics work against my army. At the top of the fourth turn I drop ordnance (lots) on his best units and there are no scatters. All those squads die. Everyone says that I was just very lucky. My opponent I can tell now is angry and starts to swear some. I ask him if would mine refraining from cursing and he tells me he'll say what he likes. The next turn I shoot up the rest of his army pretty good and everyone can see there is no way he can win. My opponent then starts on about what a cheesy list I have but I remind him that it's not mine, I'm just borrowing it for a couple of weeks. He says it doesn't matter. His friends are leaving now and a few of them tell me they like the army and they might try it out in the future. My opponent then explodes and says no one should bring that kind of Gouda cheese to their store. It was pretty funny.

Wrexasaur wrote:You had one of these situations...

COffee...OUT>>>OF>>>NOSE!

Afrikan Blonde wrote:I remember once I was traveling through the countryside to see the leaves change colors. I found a hobby shop and happened to have an army with me. So I went in to play a game. The guy I played told me he was the best gamer around and he didn't want to waste time playing a newb. So I told him I played on a regular basis but had a friend's army I hadn't played before, would he mind playing. He said okay. While we are setting up a bunch of people come into the store and mill around the table. Everyone is kissing up to my opponent and telling me I am in for a thrashing. I just be quiet and the game begins. My opponent throughout the first half of the game is explaining in great detail how his tactics work against my army. At the top of the fourth turn I drop ordnance (lots) on his best units and there are no scatters. All those squads die. Everyone says that I was just very lucky. My opponent I can tell now is angry and starts to swear some. I ask him if would mine refraining from cursing and he tells me he'll say what he likes. The next turn I shoot up the rest of his army pretty good and everyone can see there is no way he can win. My opponent then starts on about what a cheesy list I have but I remind him that it's not mine, I'm just borrowing it for a couple of weeks. He says it doesn't matter. His friends are leaving now and a few of them tell me they like the army and they might try it out in the future. My opponent then explodes and says no one should bring that kind of Gouda cheese to their store. It was pretty funny.

You played a sore loser.... Lots of them in this hobby