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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/25 16:41:53
Subject: I just can't win
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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My Friend just played against me recently and he used Nidzilla, with infiltrating gene stealers.
I got crushed. Does anyone have any advice to beat Nidzilla?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/25 16:46:58
Subject: I just can't win
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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I assume you play with Space Wolfs looking from your profileranking.
Wait for the new Codex, get one Rune Priest with the Jaws of the whatveritwas that makes enemy roll initiative test or he dies. That + Carnifex = Dead Carnifex
But to genestealer spam I can't help, I'm having problems with them too.
Hint: If you want anyone other than me (who has too much free time) to comment this kind of thread, explain a bit. What army you use, what army list you have and a bit more specific of Nidzilla: Does he have 6 Carnifexes? How many Hive Tyrants? and so on.
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Win/Draw/Lost statics
Space Orks: 11/1/1
Space Marines: 10/2/5
Lizardmen: 8/2/3
High Elves: 13/2/2 and one tournament victory!
Dark Eldar: 1/0/0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/25 16:47:22
Subject: I just can't win
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Screamin' Stormboy
Oak Park, IL
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flamers :-)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/25 16:51:59
Subject: I just can't win
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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There is only one squad of Stealers that can infiltrate. If they do, they should be easy enough to move away or shoot them dead.
You really should have a hvy flamer somewhere, or move quickly enough to be outside of 12" of them. Remember the infitrated Stealers have a Broodlord, if he is still alive they can only run, but can't fleet.
As for zillas, have long range elements chip away wounds, then finish the last 1-2 in combat.
But it would help to include your list/ your opponent's list.
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/25 17:18:19
Subject: Re:I just can't win
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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OK thanks guys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/25 17:43:42
Subject: Re:I just can't win
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Lady of the Lake
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If they have Scuttlers they gain scout and outflank because of it, which is worse than Infiltrating usually.
My friend uses a very similar list (by the sound of yours) as well and while you're dealing with the MC, the stealers come in from the sides. Which you have to try to deal with before they can get into CC. Does he use a Flyrant? My friend does and it sometimes with devourers and sometimes scything talons' it's a really annoying Tyranid >_>
I'm not sure if SW can get it, but Vindicators are good for this
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/25 17:49:30
Subject: Re:I just can't win
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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He doesn't use a Flyrant, he just had a brood lord, it was a small battle.
Also, the old SW codex, Which I was using, lets you get a vindicator. That's a great idea, I never thought about that thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/26 02:07:50
Subject: Re:I just can't win
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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Heavy bolters, heavy flamers, assault cannons. Add some salt and pepper (boltguns and flamers) and you will have alot of genestealer pulp on the field
Make sure that you are 18"+ from the sides to avoid fleet assaults and you should be good
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/26 03:05:58
Subject: Re:I just can't win
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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deploy in the middle, focus down the large critters with lascannons/autocannons/missile launchers, when the stealers come in, bolter death them. Nidzillas actually a pretty weak list overall compared to anything SM's can field
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/26 03:22:49
Subject: I just can't win
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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Youll spank him around like a circus monkey when the new book comes out its rather hilarious how badly Wolves can hurt monstrous creatures.
1 good line up with MAW can kill multiple Monstrous creatures. Throw in Saga of the Beast Slayer etc..
Its not pleasant.
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/26 06:25:43
Subject: I just can't win
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Hollismason wrote:Youll spank him around like a circus monkey when the new book comes out its rather hilarious how badly Wolves can hurt monstrous creatures.
1 good line up with MAW can kill multiple Monstrous creatures. Throw in Saga of the Beast Slayer etc..
Its not pleasant.
I actually agree, my SM friends gonna field Grey hunters in lew of his normal SM's and pack in a rune priest and SW termis. Then on top of that hes gonna use thunderfire cannons and things from the SM codex...
SM's get all these smaller armys to suplement in makes em 10x more brutal!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/26 15:28:34
Subject: I just can't win
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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Haha you guys do the same thing my friends and I do which is Mix in all the marine codexes IE all marines are just one big codex.
Its alot of fun.
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/26 15:56:03
Subject: I just can't win
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Hollismason wrote:Haha you guys do the same thing my friends and I do which is Mix in all the marine codexes IE all marines are just one big codex.
Its alot of fun.
Makes a lotta sense too, tho usually its limited to 1 extra army lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/27 16:27:20
Subject: Re:I just can't win
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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That illegal, not fair and (thus) not fun.
Against Tyranids (or Orks, or Daemons) mech up! Shoot him while he approaches you, then get in the vehicles and always move more than 12" if he can charge you. He won't like it when he needs 6's to hit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/28 00:03:03
Subject: Re:I just can't win
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
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n0t_u wrote:If they have Scuttlers they gain scout and outflank because of it, which is worse than Infiltrating usually.
Any unit with infiltrate can outflank regardless of whether or not they have scout or not. So buying scout just so you can outflank would be redundant. And a waste of 3xgenestealers points.
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Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/28 00:12:27
Subject: I just can't win
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Dominar
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The new codex comes out this week.
Long Fangs with 5 missile launchers cost 140 points.
Get the new codex and field 3 units of Long Fangs. Their krak missiles can kill Carnifexes quite effectively and their frag missiles can blow genestealers off the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/30 12:14:43
Subject: I just can't win
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Zid wrote:
I actually agree, my SM friends gonna field Grey hunters in lew of his normal SM's and pack in a rune priest and SW termis. Then on top of that hes gonna use thunderfire cannons and things from the SM codex...
SM's get all these smaller armys to suplement in makes em 10x more brutal!
Thats illegal and extremelly unfair to anyone not playing SMs.
I have no idea why anyone not playing SM would play against an army like that...
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