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2009/09/29 06:46:54
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Is it just me or does a juggernaught at +35 points get smashed by a chariot, which isn only +15?
Juggernaught adds +1S, +1T, +1W and +1A while
Chariot adds +1 S, +1T, +2W, +1A AND give it a 3+ save.
Are they trying to reward good/tricky modeling?
why's the difference so huge?
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When you call an intimate moment with your partner "the Assault Phase"
Is that followed by a pile-in move?
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "Hit and Run"
Can that be following a deep strike, or do you have to wait until the next round? |
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2009/09/29 06:53:01
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Juggernaut also gives a 3+ save, not just the chariot.
The only other big difference is that a chariot herald loses the IC rule, which is apretty big blow to survivability, and the model itself tends to be somewhat bigger as well.
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2009/09/29 08:04:37
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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the IC rule has almost no use in Apoc games anyway... but thanks...
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When you call an intimate moment with your partner "the Assault Phase"
Is that followed by a pile-in move?
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "Hit and Run"
Can that be following a deep strike, or do you have to wait until the next round? |
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2009/09/29 09:44:11
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Bascilica wrote:the IC rule has almost no use in Apoc games anyway... but thanks...
except for, y'know to prevent your Herald from being sniped by a Railgun, or an IG medusa, or a Manticore etc.
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Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).
-Jeremy Vetock, only man at Games Workshop who understands Zooming Flyers |
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2009/09/29 10:46:30
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Drunkspleen wrote:Bascilica wrote:the IC rule has almost no use in Apoc games anyway... but thanks...
except for, y'know to prevent your Herald from being sniped by a Railgun, or an IG medusa, or a Manticore etc.
Or deathstrike, or Orbital Bombardment, Or a Titan.
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2009/09/29 12:03:53
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Haha, what differece is it going ti make?
if a titan hits the chariot, its its the chariot. if it hits the squad the guys in, he's hit anyway as well. No one is going to go for a 85pt chariot when there are 2500pt titans on the field.
Hell, if they did target it, it'd be like forfeting half of hteir shooting phase. I'd be very willing to make that sacrafice.
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When you call an intimate moment with your partner "the Assault Phase"
Is that followed by a pile-in move?
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "Hit and Run"
Can that be following a deep strike, or do you have to wait until the next round? |
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2009/09/29 12:08:31
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Bascilica wrote:
Are they trying to reward good/tricky modeling?
why's the difference so huge?
Welcome to Dakka. I have a feeling you won't be well liked if you continue to ask questions and then mock the answers.
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2009/09/29 12:20:04
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Thankyou for the Welcome Lordhat.
I must say i agree, To mock the answer to ones question is a silly idea.
Having already thanked the person for the answer, i am merly commenting on those who attempt to mock me by listing the many things in the warhammer world that can take a wound from an 85pt piece.
The nature of forums is to add your say, i understand that, but it helps if you do more than just scan it...
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When you call an intimate moment with your partner "the Assault Phase"
Is that followed by a pile-in move?
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "Hit and Run"
Can that be following a deep strike, or do you have to wait until the next round? |
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2009/09/29 12:47:44
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Proud Phantom Titan
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Bascilica wrote:Thankyou for the Welcome Lordhat.
I must say i agree, To mock the answer to ones question is a silly idea.
Having already thanked the person for the answer, i am merly commenting on those who attempt to mock me by listing the many things in the warhammer world that can take a wound from an 85pt piece.
The nature of forums is to add your say, i understand that, but it helps if you do more than just scan it...
No they'd take all the wounds. Double toughness = dead; in a unit you could pass on a non instant death wound to him letting him live longer.
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2009/09/29 12:53:26
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Either way i've not had that shot blowing a hole through my tower of skulls.
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When you call an intimate moment with your partner "the Assault Phase"
Is that followed by a pile-in move?
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "Hit and Run"
Can that be following a deep strike, or do you have to wait until the next round? |
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2009/09/29 13:17:22
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Tri wrote:Bascilica wrote:Thankyou for the Welcome Lordhat.
I must say i agree, To mock the answer to ones question is a silly idea.
Having already thanked the person for the answer, i am merly commenting on those who attempt to mock me by listing the many things in the warhammer world that can take a wound from an 85pt piece.
The nature of forums is to add your say, i understand that, but it helps if you do more than just scan it...
No they'd take all the wounds. Double toughness = dead; in a unit you could pass on a non instant death wound to him letting him live longer.
All deamons have the Eternal Warrior USR...
But neways - I would have to agree. I think you are being a touch too confrontational and argumentative Bascillica. There is a happy medium within a debate (and I understand how they can get heated) but you are a touch too high.
HtH's
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine just sent me this:
"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ."
Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!
Heh. |
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2009/09/29 13:34:46
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Aknowledged Razerous. Thankyou for your level-headedness. Prehapse too many years of debating has given me an arrogance-complex.
I personally just dont see how Lordhat saying i wont be liked has anything to do wtih the topic at hand. (And personally, i find it somewhat insulting.)
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When you call an intimate moment with your partner "the Assault Phase"
Is that followed by a pile-in move?
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "Hit and Run"
Can that be following a deep strike, or do you have to wait until the next round? |
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2009/09/29 19:11:47
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Bascilica wrote:Aknowledged Razerous. Thankyou for your level-headedness. Prehapse too many years of debating has given me an arrogance-complex.
I personally just dont see how Lordhat saying i wont be liked has anything to do wtih the topic at hand. (And personally, i find it somewhat insulting.)
Your tone in your comments to other posters trying to help you is also somewhat insulting. Your question has been answered, a Chariot makes you lose the IC rule, while just taking the juggernaught does not. If you wish to debate the tactical effectiveness of one option vs another, then please make a new thread in the " 40k Tactics" section.
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2009/09/29 19:16:24
Subject: Steeds/Chariots
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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whitedragon wrote:Bascilica wrote:Aknowledged Razerous. Thankyou for your level-headedness. Prehapse too many years of debating has given me an arrogance-complex.
I personally just dont see how Lordhat saying i wont be liked has anything to do wtih the topic at hand. (And personally, i find it somewhat insulting.)
Your tone in your comments to other posters trying to help you is also somewhat insulting. Your question has been answered, a Chariot makes you lose the IC rule, while just taking the juggernaught does not. If you wish to debate the tactical effectiveness of one option vs another, then please make a new thread in the " 40k Tactics" section.
His comment to me was fine.
There is a horse, this horse is called Bascillica and it is sitting (Or is it apose to be dead?). This horse is being kicked..
Didnt need to be said/prolonged/carried on.
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine just sent me this:
"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ."
Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!
Heh. |
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