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I was wondering earlier, why did GW kill off squats? They could have made them cool if they wanted. It would suck if someone had an army and then suddenly they were eaten by tyranids and you can't use them. What's with that?

I think the problem with Squats was that they just didn't fit into a sci-fi universe that was growing increasingly more cohesive. Orcs and Elves had sci-fi archetypes they could slip into comfortably (and even then, they had a lot of work done on them), whereas the bearded short human guy ALWAYS looks like a fantasy Dwarf.

I love Dwarves. I recognize all the fantasy touches in 40k. But a Dwarf in a space suit just doesn't work. There are no beards in space. I think there's room for the Dwarf Archetype (Stout, tough, honorable, grudge-bearing, lovably curmugenesque), but I think you have tweek the look quite a bit. Plus, "Squat's" is the dumbest name in history.

Unless you count the space wolves beards. Maybe they are the new squats only taller. LOL!

For the same reason they killed off Doomrider, they were too awesome to live, they made the rest of the game look bad.

Nah, that Ha! fellah nailed it. THey did some 2nd edition test models and mentioned a codex was coming but they couldn't find inspiration. Now what made them think the Elfs who are Dark and Live in Space were a better idea is beyond me...

Yah, I guess they don't really fit in. But have you seen that stupid White Dwarf squat? Now that looks stupid.


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Here is that model,

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/common/xLargeArticleImage.jsp?mWidth=&mURL=/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m500059a_WDSubModelXL.jpg&mAlt=&mHeight=

Ha! wrote:I think the problem with Squats was that they just didn't fit into a sci-fi universe that was growing increasingly more cohesive. Orcs and Elves had sci-fi archetypes they could slip into comfortably (and even then, they had a lot of work done on them), whereas the bearded short human guy ALWAYS looks like a fantasy Dwarf.

I love Dwarves. I recognize all the fantasy touches in 40k. But a Dwarf in a space suit just doesn't work. There are no beards in space. I think there's room for the Dwarf Archetype (Stout, tough, honorable, grudge-bearing, lovably curmugenesque), but I think you have tweek the look quite a bit. Plus, "Squat's" is the dumbest name in history.

And Hobbits with sniper guns fit perfectly?
I've added the latest 'Ratling' figures to my Squat collection as they are almost identical to the ols Squat figures...
Mick

I've been slowly working on some conversions of hasslefree grymns into newer squats to blend in with my IG army.

Though, admittedly, my guard army's theme is timelost Cadians...

salamander man wrote:I was wondering earlier, why did GW kill off squats? They could have made them cool if they wanted.

Because they didn't want to. Simple as that. No one at the studio was particularly happy with how the 40K incarnation of the army had gone in relation to the tone of the rest of the game, and there was no one on staff who was passionate enough about them to be willing to undertake the task of reworking them from the ground up.

http://www.tiricosuave.com/images/economicallyviable.jpg

salamander man wrote:I was wondering earlier, why did GW kill off squats?

Because the studio guys got pissed at the fans always asking "when are Squats coming out?"

No body likes a stereotype. All there was to squats was the stereotype. Beer swillin' hard fightin' hard fartin' idiots. And they already had space wolves.