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Hello can anyone explain how 40k kill team works??

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Kill team is where you have one squad up against an army or swarm that never ends. A specific objective normally has to be achieved before the team is wiped out! SM normally are used as the kill team although any army can have a 'kill team'

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I think there were rules for Kill Team in 4th edition wh40k. Borrow a book from someone and read. It is not a very balanced type of competitive play, but is ment for storydriven, fun games that doesn't take a lot of time.
   
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Mellon wrote:I think there were rules for Kill Team in 4th edition wh40k. Borrow a book from someone and read. It is not a very balanced type of competitive play, but is ment for storydriven, fun games that doesn't take a lot of time.


what he said. You can probably find the rules online.

Another variation of Kill team that my FLGS uses is 500 pt kill teams. I believe theres another name for the game type, we just call it kill team. Essentially you make a 500 pt list with the following limitations;
- No force organization
- No models over 2 wounds
- No model can have an armor value

Its pretty fun and fast paced, but some armys are incredibly powerful in this format (Chaos Zerkers are great, SM dev squads, Necron Wraiths, etc.) while other armys are pretty gimped (Tyranids).

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Ty for your help. I hve looked for the rules on the internet but i cant find them oh well, ill jus use ur rules set Zid.

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Zid wrote:
Mellon wrote:I think there were rules for Kill Team in 4th edition wh40k. Borrow a book from someone and read. It is not a very balanced type of competitive play, but is ment for storydriven, fun games that doesn't take a lot of time.


what he said. You can probably find the rules online.

Another variation of Kill team that my FLGS uses is 500 pt kill teams. I believe theres another name for the game type, we just call it kill team. Essentially you make a 500 pt list with the following limitations;
- No force organization
- No models over 2 wounds
- No model can have an armor value

Its pretty fun and fast paced, but some armys are incredibly powerful in this format (Chaos Zerkers are great, SM dev squads, Necron Wraiths, etc.) while other armys are pretty gimped (Tyranids).


Your thinking of combat patrol.

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http://www.wizard-games.com/download/40k_Kill-teams_v1.1.pdf

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Isnt kill team where the odds are stack against you?

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I expect that's explained in the rules.

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O'shovah wrote:
Your thinking of combat patrol.


Thats the name! We play CP's as Kill Point games at my FLGS (cuz we don't have any 4th ed books saddly :( )

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Combat patrols and kill team games are basically the same anyways!

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O'shovah wrote:
Zid wrote:
Mellon wrote:I think there were rules for Kill Team in 4th edition wh40k. Borrow a book from someone and read. It is not a very balanced type of competitive play, but is ment for storydriven, fun games that doesn't take a lot of time.


what he said. You can probably find the rules online.

Another variation of Kill team that my FLGS uses is 500 pt kill teams. I believe theres another name for the game type, we just call it kill team. Essentially you make a 500 pt list with the following limitations;
- No force organization
- No models over 2 wounds
- No model can have an armor value

Its pretty fun and fast paced, but some armys are incredibly powerful in this format (Chaos Zerkers are great, SM dev squads, Necron Wraiths, etc.) while other armys are pretty gimped (Tyranids).


Your thinking of combat patrol.

No, it's similar though. Combat patrol allows vehicles whose armor value adds up to 30 for three armor sides, I believe. Zid's "kill team" seems to be simply a modified combat patrol. I am intrigued by it, too, I may run it by my gaming group, such as it is.

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Combat patrols and kill team games are basically the same anyways!


Not really similar at all, actually, besides the limitations on multi-wound characters and amounts of points taken. They play radically differently, what with all the rules concerning brute squad movement, klaxon accumulation, and the nifty little upgrades your kill team can take. It's pretty dang different.

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Rico wrote:No, it's similar though. Combat patrol allows vehicles whose armor value adds up to 30 for three armor sides, I believe. Zid's "kill team" seems to be simply a modified combat patrol. I am intrigued by it, too, I may run it by my gaming group, such as it is.


Hate to be picky but its actually 33 other than that as everyone else said

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Hey had anyone every played a game where a kill team is set against a horde of zombie brute squads. If not has anyone got any ideas of how it could work.

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Well, seeing as there are really no official stat lines available for zombies that I know of, you'd just have to do some counts-as work, which would be fine. I think that the stats of a necron warrior would represent a zombie pretty accurately. Preternaturally strong and tough, but pretty slow. Maybe shave some weapon skill off, make them unable to shoot, and allow more brute squads to be taken for them.

Other than that, it'd run pretty much the same as a normal Kill Team game. In fact, the randomized movement of brute squads fits the idea of mindless and wandering zombies pretty dang well... I like this idea a lot.

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Hey i dont play necs what is their profile also can you explain well be back rule which could represent other dead being reanimated.

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Shelegelah wrote:Well, seeing as there are really no official stat lines available for zombies that I know of, you'd just have to do some counts-as work, which would be fine. I think that the stats of a necron warrior would represent a zombie pretty accurately. Preternaturally strong and tough, but pretty slow. Maybe shave some weapon skill off, make them unable to shoot, and allow more brute squads to be taken for them.

Other than that, it'd run pretty much the same as a normal Kill Team game. In fact, the randomized movement of brute squads fits the idea of mindless and wandering zombies pretty dang well... I like this idea a lot.


You could use the rules for Nurgle plague zombies from the Apocalypse Data sheet as a starting place.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1180078_Chaos_Space_Marines_Datasheet_-_Plague_of_Zombies.pdf
   
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Shelegelah wrote:Well, seeing as there are really no official stat lines available for zombies that I know of, you'd just have to do some counts-as work, which would be fine. I think that the stats of a necron warrior would represent a zombie pretty accurately. Preternaturally strong and tough, but pretty slow. Maybe shave some weapon skill off, make them unable to shoot, and allow more brute squads to be taken for them.

Other than that, it'd run pretty much the same as a normal Kill Team game. In fact, the randomized movement of brute squads fits the idea of mindless and wandering zombies pretty dang well... I like this idea a lot.


You could use the rules for Nurgle plague zombies from the Apocalypse Data sheet as a starting place.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1180078_Chaos_Space_Marines_Datasheet_-_Plague_of_Zombies.pdf


I'd modify that some... seeing as zombies are plagued guardsmen basically, make em T3 or T3(4) as tho they had MoN. T2 really makes no sense for a walking dead human!

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Oooh, I don't check out apocalypse sheets very often, but that's incredibly interesting! I really like the "Join Us!" rule. That's totally awesome.

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KK so we got a kill team against zombs how many brute squads should the kill team be against

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From memory, Combat Patrol is 400pts, at least 1 troops choice, no 2+saves, no more than 2 wounds on a single model, and no vehicle with an AV Totaling more than 33 Points.

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We'll be back is exactly the same as feel no pain, but is taken at the start of the subsequent movement phase. The model is placed on its side for a turn then is revived on a 4+

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The Acolyte wrote:We'll be back is exactly the same as feel no pain, but is taken at the start of the subsequent movement phase. The model is placed on its side for a turn then is revived on a 4+


WBB have some additional restrictions. Such as the model needs to be close to friendlies etc.
   
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