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You bast ds!


http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/oct/19/simi-shuts-familys-haunted-house-attraction/#

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And I thought it was just this country that had 'jobs worths' hell bent on ruining peoples innocent fun...
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Sounds like uneven enforcement. Everyone calls the inspector a bad guy until the haunted house burns down and kills a few kids though.

They said they would be willing to help him gain inspection for the following Halloween, so I guess there just won't be any christmas this year.

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Well, he had the electrics built to code, installed several fire extinguishers, and lighted Exit signs, so the idea that it burns down is a bit odd.

Still, nice overreaction.

   
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Another victory for the fun Police, I swear that the health a safety culture has gone way over the top.

I bought some Stanley knives for work the other week and the pack has written on it "caution risk of getting cut".

Are there not more important issues these people could be concentrating on?

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JohnHwangDD wrote:Well, he had the electrics built to code, installed several fire extinguishers, and lighted Exit signs, so the idea that it burns down is a bit odd.

Still, nice overreaction.


Yeah, because fire extinguishers are amazing for putting out a fire when the entire building is made of plywood. Still, nice of you to state that despite knowing next to nothing about the building and setup itself other than "He had an electrician do it" and "He has fire extinguishers". Oh, I forgot about the exit signs; best fire protection system available.

Good on ya. Also good job ignoring the first sentence of my post, wherein I said it looked like uneven enforcement.



You're a champ.

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ShumaGorath wrote:Sounds like uneven enforcement. Everyone calls the inspector a bad guy until the haunted house burns down and kills a few kids though.

They said they would be willing to help him gain inspection for the following Halloween, so I guess there just won't be any christmas this year.

How is a temproary structure going to pass inspection?
What exactly are the standards of inspection of a temporary maze in a cul de sac?
Its bureaucratic nonsense. Let me correct my statement, its bureaucratic nonsense because the inspectors zapped them because they didn't get their usual payoff.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:Sounds like uneven enforcement. Everyone calls the inspector a bad guy until the haunted house burns down and kills a few kids though.

They said they would be willing to help him gain inspection for the following Halloween, so I guess there just won't be any christmas this year.

How is a temproary structure going to pass inspection?
What exactly are the standards of inspection of a temporary maze in a cul de sac?
Its bureaucratic nonsense. Let me correct my statement, its bureaucratic nonsense because the inspectors zapped them because they didn't get their usual payoff.



Sounds like uneven enforcement.


Man, I'm glad we agree.

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@Shuma: So naturally, it *must* be a deathtrap, because you obviously know something...

   
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JohnHwangDD wrote:@Shuma: So naturally, it *must* be a deathtrap, because you obviously know something...

Did you still not read the first sentence of my post? I've posted it twice now. Here, I'll do it again in case you forgot you could read it
Sounds like uneven enforcement.
Do you people just really want to argue with me? Or do you honestly think that the idea of taking both sides of the issue in equal measure is wrong of me to do? None of you were there, likely none of you were even in the state, it's not crazy to think that a plywood building covered in lights thats never been inspected and is primarily used by children could have issues.

Seriously.

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ShumaGorath wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:Sounds like uneven enforcement. Everyone calls the inspector a bad guy until the haunted house burns down and kills a few kids though.

They said they would be willing to help him gain inspection for the following Halloween, so I guess there just won't be any christmas this year.

How is a temproary structure going to pass inspection?
What exactly are the standards of inspection of a temporary maze in a cul de sac?
Its bureaucratic nonsense. Let me correct my statement, its bureaucratic nonsense because the inspectors zapped them because they didn't get their usual payoff.



Sounds like uneven enforcement.


Man, I'm glad we agree.

Yep, but that has me thinking:
1. Its not the city's business
2. What code is out there for this structure to begin with for them to say it doesn't make it in the first place?
3. What code would you use if your were a government nose picker, er high value employee?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Yep, but that has me thinking:
1. Its not the city's business
2. What code is out there for this structure to begin with for them to say it doesn't make it in the first place?
3. What code would you use if your were a government nose picker, er high value employee?


1. Cool?
2. Dunno.
3. I'm not one.

Stop trying to paint me as the fething grinch.

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ShumaGorath wrote:

Stop trying to paint me as the fething grinch.

Who is turkey? You're posting on an OT thread. OT threads change subject as the thoughts flow. This was a new thought.
Jeez over react much?

Never mind (puts Shuma back on ignore)

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Frazzled wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:

Stop trying to paint me as the fething grinch.

Who is turkey? You're posting on an OT thread. OT threads change subject as the thoughts flow. This wa a new thought.
Jeez over react much?


You and DD were doing it intentionally.


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And you've never had me on ignore.

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Frazzled wrote:
1. Its not the city's business


Yes it is.



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No, its not.


-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Shuma, you overeacted......Chill.

I agree with you by the way.(with regards to saftey inspection issues)

GG

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Again, since there are other posters on now, what standards would you actually put in place-that they didn't-for culdesac haunted house getup.

I'll note they gave a cease and desist type item without even tryign to inspect it or work with the guys to make sure it was safe. What absolute bureaucratic pricks.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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generalgrog wrote:Shuma, you overeacted......Chill.

I agree with you by the way.(with regards to saftey inspection issues)

GG


I overreacted in the first response. When they kept hitting I feel I responded appropriately. It's pretty clear what was happening though.

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Lets get freaking real here. Look at the framework. This is not much bigger than the one I and the Girl scout troop are doing this weekend (but more elaborate-if I were doing it further I'd steal some of their ideas).

http://www.venturacountystar.com/photos/galleries/2009/oct/19/simi-shuts-familys-haunted-house-attraction/4904/

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Sucks for the guy/family..especially given the fact it was, AFAICR, free for people to go into.

..but.. from the figures therein... with 2,000 people a year ..in a three day period.... given this is on private property would thrir insurance even cover any accidents that would occur ?

If it was just the 25 or so neighbours who signed the petition then this would be an overreaction, but even from the neighbours perspective it must cause problems when 2,000 people go that way in 3 days or so.

On the plus side it's a great CV for the guy, someone should snap him up ASAP, he must have good ideas.

EDIT : after pics... err... that's it ? Really ? Hmm.. guys been jipped a bit, but I guess he won't get sued anyway.

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Frazzled wrote:This is not much bigger than the one I and the Girl scout troop are doing this weekend


Hmmm.. now time to place my anonymous call to your local inspection office...Bwahahahahahaha

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Frazzled wrote:No, its not.




Municipalities can do just about anything they want. Short of violating the Constitution anyway. This doesn't violate the Constitution in any way that I can see. Unless we're thinking of Freedom of Speech, but if actions are tantamount to speech I should be able to dick-slap anyone that looks at me funny.

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Good luck with that GG.

1. We'll have the FBI Agent GS dad warn 'em off...
2. Its a Girl scout service unit wide invite. Thats a lot of girl scouts, and their bulldog moms. You ever mess with a GS Mom? Where do you think GW got the idea of a Chain axe? I know. I KNOW!!!
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Frazzled wrote:No, its not.




Municipalities can do just about anything they want. Short of violating the Constitution anyway. This doesn't violate the Constitution in any way that I can see. Unless we're thinking of Freedom of Speech, but if actions are tantamount to speech I should be able to dick-slap anyone that looks at me funny.

I'm not talking legal. Its not their business. They should go back to shaking down restaurants.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Meh. Municipal government do lots of stupid things. The town my parents lived in denied a major chain store the right to purchase property on grounds that their shipping vehicles would increase the number of children hit by cars.

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Frazzled wrote:I'm not talking legal. Its not their business. They should go back to shaking down restaurants.

Exactly. Go after people with money.

   
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dogma wrote:Meh. Municipal government do lots of stupid things. The town my parents lived in denied a major chain store the right to purchase property on grounds that their shipping vehicles would increase the number of children hit by cars.


I fething hate... municipal codes... they are next to slowed half of the time.

When you have a dozen different rules, all for the same thing, within 20 miles of each other... you know there is a huge problem.

When it comes to conctruction it is usually pretty straight forward; how about this though. In Berkeley, there is a code that says if your neighbor is blocking the view from your pretty little deck with a tree... even a tree which has been there for generations, but is not quite a landmark; YOU have to remove it. Not the neighbor with their pretty little view, YOU have to remove it. I mean seriously though, I am extremely surprised that people actually get away with this kind of thing.

Another thing in Berkeley; there is a Buddhist temple that has a meal service on the weekends. Not cheap, but it is for a good cause, that kind of thing. Apparently though, there was ONE family in the neighborhood that got tired of the smell and traffic. The smell of fantastic food, and good times... fething goddam bastards, and their good times. This one family, in a neighborhood with around 3 dozen families, managed to bitch and moan their way into cutting out nearly half of the time that the temple was allowed to stay open.

No one else complained... and in fact, they spoke nothing but good for the temple, and yes, these fething nitwits got their way. I freaking hate this snap...


 
   
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