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2009/10/21 21:01:53
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Sniping Hexa
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So anyway I have heard several mentions to the tribes of old earth in the first HH novel (only one I have read so far) in a huge war for earth before the emperor began his conquest. My questions are: what where they called, which regions (considering their not atomic dust or built over) of earth did they inhabit and what kind of tech did each faction possess?
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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2009/10/21 21:27:05
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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From Lexicanum:
Lexicanum wrote:Earth and the rest of the Solar System was surrounded by terrible warp storms, isolating the human home world for several thousand years. Control of the Solar System shifted constantly between Earth and Mars during the first half of the Age of Strife. By the 28th Millennium almost all traces of civilization on Earth were long gone; instead, techno-barbarians battled one another over the scraps of the ancient culture. Little information remains from this dark time, but it is known that tyrants such as Kalagann of Ursh (northern Asia/Russia), Cardinal Tang, and "the half-mad half-genius" Narthan Dume of the Panpacific Empire ruled during this age. Other known nations include the Yndonesic Bloc, the Urals (a centre of industry), Jermani, Gyptus, Merica, the Nordafrik Conclaves, the Terrawatt Clan and Alba. Another race mentioned are the 'Nordyc' people.
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2009/10/21 22:35:30
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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Mercia is where amercia was, and a couple look like older civlizations that re amerged.
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2009/10/22 07:42:57
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Sniping Hexa
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Heres what I got so far
Urash=Asia/Russia=Warp Magic+Deamons
Panpacific Empire=Pacific Islands+Indonesia=High tech level (inventors of the storm bird)
Yndonesic Bloc=
Urals/Terrawatt=Urals=High tech and industry(forgers of luciuses sword)
Jermani=
Gyptus=
Merica=America
Nordafirk Conclaves=
Alba=
Franc=France
Nordyc=
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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2009/10/22 07:57:18
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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vodo40k wrote:Heres what I got so far
Urash=Asia/Russia=Warp Magic+Deamons
Panpacific Empire=Pacific Islands, Japan
Yndonesic Bloc=Indonesia
Urals/Terrawatt=Urals=High tech and industry(forgers of luciuses sword) Ukraine, Western Russia
Jermani= Germany
Gyptus=
Merica=America
Nordafirk Conclaves= Libya, Tunisia, Morocco
Alba=
Franc=France
Nordyc= Norway, Sweden, Finland
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2009/10/22 08:05:27
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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BrotherStynier wrote:vodo40k wrote:Heres what I got so far
Urash=Asia/Russia=Warp Magic+Deamons
Panpacific Empire=Pacific Islands, Japan
Yndonesic Bloc=Indonesia
Urals/Terrawatt=Urals=High tech and industry(forgers of luciuses sword) Ukraine, Western Russia
Jermani= Germany
Gyptus=Egypt (?)
Merica=America
Nordafirk Conclaves= Libya, Tunisia, Morocco
Alba= Europe ? Italy ? Albania ?
Franc=France
Nordyc= Norway, Sweden, Finland
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2009/10/25 01:01:12
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Why do think the Nordafrik conclaves are form Libya/Morrocco? From the name I'd think it was scandinavian and where the Nordyc people come from.
Alos could Alba be what is now GB? In WHFB Albion is the name of the island similarly placed.
Also is it possible that the oceans had already dried up? If so, the pan pacific empire would be bloody huge!
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2009/10/25 02:24:04
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Nordafrik = Nord Afrika = North Africa
Nord + Afrika - a = NordAfrik
NordAfrika, lower the a, Nordafrik
North Africa is Libya, Morocco, Tunisia
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2009/10/25 03:06:54
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Calculating Commissar
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Can't believe you left out Europa - which was Middle europe + Southern Europe around the Mediterranean Sea
And I believe Britain was Britonnica. I think Fulgrim referanced it.
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2009/10/25 03:13:12
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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There is also Hy Brasil, which was in the short story Blood Games in the Tales of Heresy book.
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2009/10/25 03:39:08
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Alba is tough. Seems like it could be a short form of "Albion", which seems most likely to me seeing as how the developers are from the Isles, and while it's earth, they can take some license with it.
Second place goes to Alberta (hey, it's in Risk) Third place to Albania (they've already covered the balkans as part of another 'bloc')
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2009/10/25 06:46:57
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Urash=Asia/Russia
Panpacific Empire=Pacific Islands, Japan, EDIT:Australia
Yndonesic Bloc=Indonesia
Urals/Terrawatt=Urals, Ukraine, Western Russia
Jermani= Germany
Gyptus=Egypt
Merica=America
Nordafirk Conclaves= Libya, Tunisia, Morocco
Alba= Alberta/Albania
Franc=France
Nordyc=Norway, Sweden, Finland
Europa=Middle,Southern and Mediterranean Europe
Britonnica=Britain
Hy Brazil=Brazil
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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2009/10/25 06:59:14
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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What boout Australia?
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2009/10/25 07:05:52
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Calculating Commissar
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Part of the Pan-Pacific
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2009/10/25 17:47:58
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I've read somewhere that Australia is center of the navigators on Terra.
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Then Nathaniel Garro was born in Albania or Alberta.
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2009/10/25 18:22:12
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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I don't know if this has any connection, but wikipedia says the following about alba and albion, respectively:
Alba is the Scottish Gaelic name for Scotland.
Albion is the oldest known name of the island of Great Britain.
Problem solved, I would say, I think.
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2009/10/25 18:52:10
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Europe without britain,france,germany isnt much ..... Maybe europe is a regional reference not a national one?
otherwise, alba = albania ? ( finally got great-albania? ) not likely IMO.
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Scots got their own thing going in M30?
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2009/10/25 19:11:32
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Merica? More like 'Merica. Looks like the idiots finally took over.
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2009/10/25 20:36:04
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Fresh-Faced New User
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maybe the scots took over...
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2009/10/25 23:42:28
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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2009/10/26 00:56:53
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Lethal Lhamean
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I always figure panpacific was Australia.. but Japan makes more sense. (not that it needs to 28k years in the future.. )
Good thread I learned something.
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2009/10/27 17:37:49
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
Union, Kentucky United States
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Shaman wrote:I always figure panpacific was Australia.. but Japan makes more sense. (not that it needs to 28k years in the future.. )
Good thread I learned something.
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2009/10/31 21:44:43
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Were Earth's oceans still present at that time?Pan-pacific name makes me wonder.
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2009/11/01 10:03:48
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Sniping Hexa
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Im sure at least some oceans where present but by no means all. Also Im sure much was built over by hive cities or destroyed by nuclear war. When they find an ancient map of Terra in the first HH book no one recognizes it except the Emperor.
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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2009/11/01 11:13:39
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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vodo40k wrote:Im sure at least some oceans where present but by no means all. Also Im sure much was built over by hive cities or destroyed by nuclear war. When they find an ancient map of Terra in the first HH book no one recognizes it except the Emperor.
Did the map show our current Earth.
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2009/11/01 11:33:25
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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It didn't specify. Just that it was an oooooooooold map. Seeing as the emperor isn't currently around (that we know about), I'm guessing that its earth in a couple of millenia.
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2009/11/01 17:04:40
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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Sniping Hexa
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Yea it was found in a really deep cavern on some old planet, therefore it would have required humans to take it there so it must be a map of the future earth.
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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2009/11/01 23:18:27
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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I thought the majority of the oceans would be around in this period althought perhaps not as we recognise them today, like polluted to hell etc with weird three-eyed fishies in em. They werent totally destroyed till Horus orbitally oribliterated them during the heresy.
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Oh and i though Alba was corrupted form of Albion perhaps that is Great Britain in the 28 millenium, GW does enjoy taking stuff from history and hammering it into 40k imo
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2009/11/08 16:10:25
Subject: Re:Pre-Unification Tribes
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IvanTih wrote:Were Earth's oceans still present at that time?Pan-pacific name makes me wonder.
the mediteranian sea dried up
it is referred to as the mediteranian dust-bowl in the short story 'the last church'
and why has no one mentioned franc?
that was also mentioned in the last church
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4300/11/08 23:54:12
Subject: Pre-Unification Tribes
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CadianXV wrote:It didn't specify. Just that it was an oooooooooold map. Seeing as the emperor isn't currently around (that we know about), I'm guessing that its earth in a couple of millenia.
Wut? The Emperor was Borne of the Souls of a Thousand Shamans in approximately 8000 BCE. He spent his life as an anonymous person trying to steer mankind from behind the reigns. Don't forget, he can make people think he looks like whatever he wants. For all we know, he could have been Napoleon
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