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Hello from New Zealand, long time lurker (3 years now), first time poster.

Curious about the rules in Codex:CSM in regards to multiple weapons. It seems that most marines (Death Guard, Noise marines, standard CSM squads) all have a bolt pistol, CCW, and a botler. Does this confer an extra attack in CC or would you just pick whichever weapon choice you prefer? Because i cant see it working if they had all 3 with the WYSIWYG system.

Cheers all

It gives them an extra attack.

It's perfectly doable WYSIWYG. Bolt Pistols in Holsters, Knives in Scabbards or Bolters on a Sling. Or Just 3 Arms. It is Chaos after all.

Grey Hunters have this too.

Also, Welcome to Dakka, I am the Resident Troll here on YMTC. (^_^)

On the WYSIWYG problem, since those options are standard gear, and have no option to be changed/removed, then modelling them isn't as vital. WYSIWYG is really meant to make options visible, so you can tell if those are 10 chosen with 5 plasmaguns, or 10 chosen with 5 power fists. You'd react differently to either set, so you'd want to know. But 10 CSM will always have bolter + pistol/ccw, so it doesn't matter if you can see them on the models since you know they will always have that.

So will that equal 3 attacks on the charge? (Obviously not if they fired during the shooting phase, but thats besides the point )

Correct and to maximize the potential of the bolt pistol since it is an assault weapon you fire one shot with the bolt pistol then charge in to assault.


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Also welcome BTW.

Thats just evil

Cheers for the clarification

Grey Hunters are better though.

They have Counter Attack, so they have 3 Attacks WHEN CHARGED most the time.

They have Cheap Drop Pods that are nigh un-DeepStrike-Mishapable.

They have the Mark of the Wulfen, where one guy gets D6+1 RENDING attacks + the bonus for Counter Attack.

Also they have 2 Meltas that cost 2.5 points each

But i have creepy space rot, and puss-oozing superhumans. And spiky bits!

and Obliterators. Whats not to love about Terminators mutated by a technovirus?

Shame bout the whole lesser daemons = just that, no specific ones anymore though :(

yes.. 'tis a shame about the daemons... well, we'll always have our spiky bits I guess...

Very true.

And i had just started buying up Plaguebearers before i stopped playing for a while. Now they are just bleh

They're okay. You can easily get away with squeezing a unit of 8-10 in a competitive list. They can be nice to join together multiple assaults for you, and to beat up light infantry. And if they show up on turn 2 and you're not in range yet, you can have them hold an objective on your side of the table. If you put them in 4+ cover they can just Go To Ground all game when people shoot at them, getting 3+ cover saves and not going anywhere because they're Fearless.

nurgling-hurder wrote:Thats just evil

Cheers for the clarification

Well of COURSE its evil.... they ARE chaos man. I think 3 arms would be funny