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any ideas for beating orks with necrons???

Its a really tough match up if your opponent knows what hes doing.

I cant give you blind advice, because it really depends on the orc army list and play.
Orks can play very diverse armies.

A quick note is that Orks vs Necrons is a match up when Nightbringer shines.

Also immortals are good, scarabs almost a necessity to either charge his lootas after some flanking maneuuvers or charge a unit you need to hold for while whilst you deal with the really strong Bikes or nobs.

Kill those trucks as fast as possible and deploy in a way that you can make him walk a long way if he plays horde. Monolith is awesome vs horde ork.

Vs Nob bikers, they need to be HEAVILY shot with Str 9+ weapons (particle whip, Heavy destros) to kill a nob or two, and then shot with everything else and then charge with Nightbringer, hitting not his boss but the rest of the nobs. If you play Deceiver, you charge, then at his assault phase you move out, you shoot em again, assault again.

Veries if there possability of blocking off paths to get to you try to be monolith heavy on the front. and be sure to keep distence

thanks for the tip

Against Orks, Monoliths shine against what ever build they bring as Orks have no real answer to AV 14, as others have said too the Nightbringer is in his element, don't expect him to annihilate Ork squads in a flash but do expect him to wear them down over time and form a unit that your opponent will be forced to react to and thereby provide your Destroyers/ Immortals with something that resembles a fire base. Destroyers (as always) will serve you well, in particular whittling down large mobs from range but beware of Lootas, they easily possess the power to decimate entire squads of destroyers and deny WBB.

The deciever or the nighbringer will really help against orks.

Monoliths also will really help.

thanks

Orks have an answer for AV14, either a Warboss with PK strength 10 on charge or Nobz with PK strength 9 on charge.

cptjoeyg wrote:Orks have an answer for AV14, either a Warboss with PK strength 10 on charge or Nobz with PK strength 9 on charge.

tankbustas with their str 10 hammer as well

Depending on the interpretation of the rules, Battlewagons with Deffrolla upgrades will pummel AV14 if they can ram it.

Eyclonus wrote:Depending on the interpretation of the rules, Battlewagons with Deffrolla upgrades will pummel AV14 if they can ram it.

Monolith are skimmers so they can roll for dodging a ram ! I so wish it happens that someone ram my monolith

Moonreaper wrote:

cptjoeyg wrote:Orks have an answer for AV14, either a Warboss with PK strength 10 on charge or Nobz with PK strength 9 on charge.

tankbustas with their str 10 hammer as well

What I mean to suggest, is that Orks have no effective counter to AV14, sure there are options but the Orks struggle more than most armies.

Bring a bunch of destroyers and hide your warriors behind them, orky shooting has a hard time against T5. (Rokkit will do it, but srsly, who takes rokkits? They'll probably miss anyways.) And as for assaulting that's like the ultimate tarpit, or you can intercept them with scarrabs/bigD, an even better tarpit.

Destroyers do a good job shooting orks to death, as do immortals.

thanks

Nightbringer is a real pain for me when i fight necrons. Monoliths get chewed up by kans or dreads when i fight em.