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As a Nurgle chaos player, I find myself drawn to Typhus.

-If his CCW wounds a unit, he can make a psychic test to kill them later, even if he has already used another psychic power already.
-Mark of Nurgle
He automatically makes his psyhic checks for these powers:
-Wind of Chaos
-Nurgle's Rot
-He has Feel No Pain and Fearless
-Termie armor

(The only thing I'm not clear on is his Destroyer Hive, can someone tell me how that works?)

What do you guys think?

Typhus is pretty sweet. Unfortunately, *Enter the Power Fist* he is easy to instagib.

yea... he only has what, a 5+ invul save? a powerfist shot ruins his day mighty fast. and thats normally exactly what i do if I see him fielded in an enemy list... thunder hammer to the face and pop.

Pretty much.
He should get eternal warrior, but oh well.

We don't need to be told what he can do, nor what powers he has.
We who have the Chaos codex can flip to the page and see for ourselves... ...

So...
Problems with Typhus:
-1: fist equivalents.
-2: Delivery: none of the options are that great.
-3: His best posse is something fearless, which means terminators are pretty iffy.
-4: He's still pretty expensive for what you get.

In addition, he's 'Renegade' Death Guard and not one 100% under Mortarion's control.... so some don't like that fluff aspect.

Destroyer hive IIRC is his blight grenades.


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I also agree with th above that has been said. To easy to kill and not a good way to move him around the field.

Cool model and certain you could find a suitable meat shield if you wanted to use him

Cannot help you with his destroyer hive

how not to die to a power fist .... Don't make B2B contact with the power fist and make sure some one else does. Don't remove the model in B2B with the power fist and he can never be hurt by it. In the case of Assault terminators with multiple Thunderhammers ... RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

He's an IC, which means you often don't get a choice whether or not your get to be in b2b with a pfist.

Canonness Rory wrote:He's an IC, which means you often don't get a choice whether or not your get to be in b2b with a pfist.

don't know A) make sure hes in the middle of the unit so he can't be charged by the power fist B) make sure he moved across away from the power fist when he charges. I don't know about you but I can normally move to avoid threats like P.fists.

Well, the opponent can simply do the same thing.
If you charge that means he reacts... which means the fist will be moved after the IC moves in reaction.

And, the fist needs only be within 2" of a person in b2b w/ the character to hit him, with no one else in b2b...not hard to do with a light bulb formation.

The IC and his squad can only 'snipe' the fist if they wound everyone at least once.
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In addition, there are other things besides fist that can easily instant gib him at range... all it takes is hitting what ever squad he's in with enough str 8+ AP 2/1 stuff and wounding every model so something has to be assigned to him.

Sanctjud wrote:Well, the opponent can simply do the same thing.
If you charge that means he reacts... which means the fist will be moved after the IC moves in reaction.

If you charge you can get into B2B with the fist unless he's using a really tight formation.

And, the fist needs only be within 2" of a person in b2b w/ the character to hit him, with no one else in b2b...not hard to do with a light bulb formation.

not if he's in B2B with some one. If in B2B he must attack that model.

The IC and his squad can only 'snipe' the fist if they wound everyone at least once.

Never said they could snipe the fist only block him from attacking the IC.

My point is once you have a single model in B2B with the power fist, unless the IC also gets into B2B with the fist the model with the fist can't allocate to the IC. Its all under multiple combats. Maybe I need some diagrams?

@Tri:
It doesn't need to be a tight formation, all he needs to do is hang the fist back. In a sort of lightbulb formation.

A question: what is the delivery for Typhus then?
Foot/Dsingfoot/LR each has it's problems...but if we are talking about a LR, then prob. one can get guys into bsb with the fist.

If it's Ds+foot, then I would doubt it.
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The second point: read the part you quoted I had also said "with no one else in b2b"....
Don't need to tell me again, I have already noted it.
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The third quote.
It has nothing to do with you specifically, I was just trying to think on the opponent's side and figure out a way (doesn't have to be consistant) to deal with the fist, out side of getting into b2b... in which wieght of attacks at I2+ 'can' work.
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As easy as you can say; get someone in B2B, someone can just hand the guy back, or like you said, have a tigher formation of some sorts.

Generally all you need is 0.9" between each base to prevent people from moving though the gap.
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This is about Typhus, though avoiding fists is very much something he'd like to do (and is able to (not disagreeing with getting stuff in b2b with the fist)), he is still vulnerable to the equivalent stuff and has other reasons why he's more of a fun choice rather than a competitive one.

Sanctjud ... meh guess I'm just used to out manoeuvring people. I can normal get into B2B with the fist or get close enough to him to keep him +2" from my IC. YMMV (scratch may, Does) but i only have trouble with multiple fists .... and only then if I can't thin the unit out in advance.

Well, /shrug, lets apply Typhus at least.
Now there is an oppurtunity cost.
Depending on how close you are, you may or may not end up using wind.

The opponent might remove close models...so the only viable way is for Typhus to go in first that kind of stuff.
If he's buried in the squad: there is the chance he doesn't get to attack, there is chance for him to use wind...which amounts to wasted potential.

But should he shoot and the enemy unit falls back...that's good, but also bad as there is no more chance to hide in combat.

So what do we have:
Tyhpus is best applied against in combat is with something with multiple wounds, high toughness. Which means Monstrous Creatures.

He has the speed to hit first and hopefully kill it.

Issues: If it dies, well you are in the open again.
If its faster, there's a chance he dies.
If it lives, and str High, there's a chance he goes splat.
Now all these ifs count on him not whiffing... but what about the daemon weapon.
1/6 times he rolls for attacks he attacks with 0 attacks...which means free reighn by the enemy.

In which case we look to get him a posse to take the licks...I suggest plagues.

So... Typhus, lets say 7 plagues, in a LR... that's an expensive basket.
Could it be housewrecker...yes.

Worth a try: Of course.
But I don't particularly like 5++ characters that cost 200+ points, that have no better inv save, no true toughnes 5, nor have eternal warrior.

Everytime my opponent takes Typhus it ends with a melta blast to his face.

Really needs EW to be effective.