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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle






Jacksonville, NC

Sunday my friend (who plays Eldar) learned I had finally gotten my Dark Eldar army. After much poking, he agreed to an epic rivalry style game! Our lists were as follows;

Alex (Eldar)
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Avatar
Farseer
- Runes of Witnessing, spirit stone, guide, doom
- riding w/ striking scorpions
8x striking scorpions
- exarch, stalker, scorpions claw
- Mounted in WS w/ Shuruken Cannon, TL BL, spirit stones
2x Dire Avenger Squads (10 strong)
- exarch, two Shuriken Cannons, Bladestorm
- mounted in another Waveserpent w/ same as above (each squad)
2x Ranger squads (5 strong)
Falcon
- Scatter Laser, HF (whats this?), spirit stones


Eldar

Me (dark eldar)
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1x Archon
- Punisher, Drugs, Shadow Field, Tormenter Helm, Animus Vitae, Plasma Grenades
w/ 5 incubi and Drazhar retinue
- Plasma Grenades
All mounted in a Raider (no upgrades)
8x Wyches w/ Succubus
- Plasma Grenades/Wych Weapons
- Agonizer
- 2x Blaster
- trophy rack
- Mounter in Raider w/ horrorfex
8x Wyches w/ Succubus
- Plasma Grenades/Wych Weapons
-Agonizer
- 2x Blaster
- trophy rack
- Mounted in Raider w/ horrorfex
Warp Beast Pack w/ Beastmaster
3x Ravagers
- 3 Disintigrators on each
- Night Shields
3x Raider Squads
- 5 warriors mounted in each w/ 1 dark lance each
4x Heavy support Warrior squads
- 10 man squads
- 2x Dark Lances in each


Dark Eldar

We roll for mission/Deployment and get Table Quarters/Capture and Control! So he gives me a wraithlord to be my objective, I was gonna give him a raider (he never blew one up, just wrecked em all game ><. I win the roll to go first!


Dark Eldar deployment

Eldar Deployment. Rangers are in towers, the wrecked tank-thing is the objective (where the raider woulda been)

Dark Eldar T1
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The wave of raiders moves up 12". Warp beasts move up behind the raiders.

For shooting the DE take a heavy toll on their good breathern! The dark lance squad in my tower targets his left tower, blowing it up! in the resulting explosion he loses 3 rangers and takes a wound on the avatar (yay for 6's!). Now that the tower was out of the way, I shoot half my raiders at the white falcon and half at the black WS. After all is said and done (stupid holo field) I get crew shaken on both vehicles. All 3 ravagers bombard where his tower once was, 6 disintigrators targeting the rangers, and 3 on the avatar. After scatters/saves the avatar takes a second wound and he loses 1 more ranger. The last ranger passes leadership! Beasts fleet up 5".


Dark Eldar advance!

Eldar T1
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His last ranger moves out of the cover of his crater, hiding behind the hill. Avatar moves up into the crater. His vehicles don't move much.

In his shooting phase he shoots his rangers at my middle ravager... scoring a penetrating hit! He blows off one of my disintigrators! Thats a good sniper if I say so! His black wave serpent blows the dark lance off my warriors raider. Nothing else really happens lol...



Dark Eldar T2
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Move up everything 12". Warp beasts move up. I don't move my dark lance warrior raiders, sticking back to shoot.

Shooting phase sucks this turn.... I shoot both my DL raiders + squads, the archons raiders DL, both my wych raider DL, AND my two DL in my tower at his falcon... scoring only 1 glance and no pens after cover >< It can't shoot yet again! Two ravagers bombard his avatar, killing it off with some good hits (and wounding it 4 times!). Last ravagers glances the black WS, causing it not to shoot again.


Dark eldar... doing nothing really -_-

Eldar T2
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He moves his falcon up to block in his wave serpent. Both his blue/black WS move out on my right. His ranger moves/runs into cover behind his objective (damn troop choice!)

In shooting the eldar take a toll on their evil brothers! His falcon wrecks my wych raider in front of his pass. They pass their pinning test, get shot up by the rangers (losing 1), and pass their second pinning test. His blue WS blows off my archon raiders dark lance! Nothing else much happens as everythings still in transports ><


Eldar making life for a dark eldar no fun :*(

Dark Eldar T3
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Two ravagers move 12" up into the crater where his tower once was, one immobilizing itself! Wyches move toward the rangers tower. Warp beasts move up, nothing to attack yet :( Archons raider TB's up between the serpents and ranger tower. My last ravager moves to the right.

Wyches make the rangers in the building stunned.... a lot. Between assault and both my blasters pinning I rolled 4 1's and 2's.... Dark lances shoot all over at wave serpents, finally pinning and his grey and blue ones lose their bright lances.


This was actually during eldars T3 LOL!

Eldar T3
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Falcon moves behind the tower, facing my wyches. Striking scorpions disembark and move 6" from his grey WS, the WS moving away to the right. All his dire avengers disembark, the WS moving into positions to target raiders.

Shooting this turn is brutal, simply put -_- Striking scorpions kill off 3 warp beasts with pistols, they pass leadership. Pulse laser + all other weapons on falcon wrecks my raider by the serpents. Both squads of Direavengers shooting together wrecks the archons raider after cover saves. Wave serpent with its BL still in tact wrecks my second wych raider. I forget how, but he kills off all but 2 wyches by the tower (I'm missing something somewhere!)

In the assault my warp beasts are wiped off the face of the earth. They consolidate 2", not enough to get into cover!


Eldar showing evil WHATS UP!

Dark Eldar T4
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Archons group moves up near DE's. Wyches move behind his falcon. Other squad of wyches moves up. No other movement really!

In shooting the wyches immobilize the black wave serpent (take that!). I blow up the wave serpent near my wyches with their blasters... and the resulting explostion kills 4! damn >< I pass leadership. Ravagers bombard the scorpions, scoring 15 wounds and wiping out the squad.

In the assault my archons squad plows through a squad of avengers, consolidating into cover near the ranger!


Another pic on the eldars turn LOL! But DE are slowly working their way into the game!

Eldar T4
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Falcon moves up to block the wyches. Blue WS moves up to shoot archons group, as does his last group of avengers.

In shooting he shoots his blue wave serpent, both squads of rangers, and blade storms his dire avengers.... and after all is said and done I lose 3 incubi and take a wound of drazhar! I pass my leadership! Falcon shoots at wyches, killing a few.


The killing field

Dark Eldar T5
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Seeing as I control my corner (hes been defending the whole time!) and he sees there is no way to draw out a tie unless we go to T7 and he can turboboost his vehicles across the field without getting blown to bits, alex concedes.

Aftermath: BRUTAL game! Some poor rolls in the beginning, along with some great rolls by alex, almost resulted in disaster early! If he'd rolled a little higher on his pens instead of blowing off weapons all the time the game could have turned out very differently! All in all was an excellent game, and I learned that even though I had the advantage of numbers, eldar is still a tough cookie to crack!


Field at the end of the game

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/11/24 05:24:56


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Fixture of Dakka






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Great report mate! I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

G

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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle






Jacksonville, NC

Green Blow Fly wrote:Great report mate! I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

G


Thanks much it was one of the best games I've had in a very long time! I'm really glad he played it through haha (he typically concedes early in our games cuz he has no faith eldar will ever win ><

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Devastating Dark Reaper




Australia

Great battle, good to see a drak eldar victory.
However...
I just added up the eldar army. its only 1589 pts!
Tell your mate to take more things in a 2000 pts force!
   
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Executing Exarch






Odenton, MD

2000 points and you didn't field Vect? you are really missing out on some fun

Who wouldn't want a AV14 Fast, skimmer, walker with Power weapons, a DL and 2 plasmacannons?
   
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People commonly forget some units their opponent used when writing batreps, I know I do it a lot.

Anyways eldar versus dark eldar and both armies mechanized is a truly epic matchup and you rarely ever see them face off. I am not a big fan of the guy who wrote the DE codex but I think he did a fantastic job with that book. Dark eldar are the true eldar, the only real survivors of the original race following their fall... Their codex reflects that very well too. I don't think any two races hate each other more. It's funny when you stop to consider how many enemies eldar have such as the Necrons as well. Dark eldar don't have a lot of resources but what they do have they know how to use very well.

G

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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle






Jacksonville, NC

Khaine wrote:Great battle, good to see a drak eldar victory.
However...
I just added up the eldar army. its only 1589 pts!
Tell your mate to take more things in a 2000 pts force!


Well he may have missed something in his list (I had him write it down for me as I'm not too familiar with eldar). And he might have miscounted! Either way, if anything, he would have added some banshees and probably some guardians, but the outcome wouldn't have been too much different I don't think lol

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Lethal Lhamean






Venice, Florida

Very cool to see a DE on regular E batrep.

It's usually one of the most challenging matchups for us since Eldar are pretty much the only race that can match our speed and their vehicles can be surprisingly difficult to kill.

That said you did a stellar job keeping him on his back heel the entire game. Putting the pressure on maximum and flooding him with DE units was a true classic use of the army. I will somewhat question your decision to keep pushing the Ravagers forward after investing in Night Shields - but hey, you certainly target saturated him and probably had him confused and bewildered about what to shoot at next.

You did really luck out when his D.Avengers emptied into your retinue, that must of had you on cloud nine when you walked away with so little damage.

Cool batrep.

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Kabalite Conscript




Manchester, UK

I would question not just the Nightshields on Ravagers but the Sniper Warrior squads as well. If you intend to take the fight to your opponent (which you have done in both your reports) it might be better to switch those 2 to additional Raider Squads w/Dark Lances. You still have the option to deploy them in scenary on objectives and then gain 2 empty Raiders for obscuring all your other ones in deployment and chargeing across the board. Granted it's an extra 2 KP but since you are going for annihilation it doesn't matter

You were lucky the guys Waveserpents weren't tooled up with ScatterLasers... those are a Raiders worst nightmare that the Eldar can field. Twin linked 4 shot Str6 just doesn't bode well at all.

Oh and HF is Holofield the thing that makes you roll 2d6 and take the lowest on damage table.

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Lethal Lhamean






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Yeah, those thrice damned WarWalker squadrons with scatter lasers are a nightmare.

Looking at his playstyle he might benefit from going gunboat and/or assault squads in the Raiders and just forgetting the mini-sniper squads.

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Kabalite Conscript




Manchester, UK

Lol.. just realised it's also an illegal army. Has 7 troop selections

That is the problem with Dark Eldar at 2k... you either need to take plenty of upgrades or take Reaver Jetbikes to use up the FA slots...

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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle






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I typed up the list wrong, it was 2x raider squads (not 3x). I ordered a 6th raider the other day, along with 3 destructor hamunculi, and some more incubi (gonna build 2 archon retinues for apocalypse).

Anyways, yeah, I've swapped out my raider sniper squads for blaster/shredder/agonizer warrior squads in a coupld games, but i've had little luck with them. It seems lance spam has been the way to go, and I agree, I really need to stick back more! I play Khone/Plasma Plague heavy Chaos marines that are super aggressive and it takes me a while to learn an army and nto rush forward (it was the same with my crons, but I almost always run scarab swarms so I can rush forward anyway lol).

I really like my list, I just need more variation. I'm probably going to buy a wych lord and 2-3 more squads of wyches and make a wych cult army up. I think it would be extremely fun to face off vs things like space wolves with a wych heavy army in raiders and use DL ravagers instead of trip disintigrators!


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Messiah2k02 wrote:I would question not just the Nightshields on Ravagers but the Sniper Warrior squads as well. If you intend to take the fight to your opponent (which you have done in both your reports) it might be better to switch those 2 to additional Raider Squads w/Dark Lances. You still have the option to deploy them in scenary on objectives and then gain 2 empty Raiders for obscuring all your other ones in deployment and chargeing across the board. Granted it's an extra 2 KP but since you are going for annihilation it doesn't matter

You were lucky the guys Waveserpents weren't tooled up with ScatterLasers... those are a Raiders worst nightmare that the Eldar can field. Twin linked 4 shot Str6 just doesn't bode well at all.

Oh and HF is Holofield the thing that makes you roll 2d6 and take the lowest on damage table.


Oh and I told him to take scatterlasers on his stuff, but he doesn't listen haha. I told him raiders are glass cannons and they go down easily!

And scatterlaser warwalkers is a pain in the ass in any game :( hate them soooo much! Same with sentinel squadrons

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