Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/01 09:40:17
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Fresh-Faced New User
|
I don't have my Codex with me here, but I know what I have.
HQ
Warboss Goldtoof - Twin-Linked Shoota, Bosspole, 'Eavy Armour and Power Klaw.
ELITES
5 Nobz + 1 Painboy - Sluggas, Big Choppas, Cybork Bodies and 'Eavy Armour. Painboy has Cybork Body, Choppa and 'Urty Syringe.
TROOPS
20 Boyz - Sluggas, Choppas and 2 Big Shootas.
10 Boyz + 1 Nob - Sluggas, Choppas, 1 Big Shoota and 1 Rokkit Launcha. Nob has Slugga, Power Klaw and a Bosspole.
10 Gretchin + 1 Runtherd - Gretchin with Grot Blastas. Runtherd with Slugga, Grot Prod and Squig Hound.
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Trukk - Big Shoota, Grot Riggers, Reinforced Ram, Wreckin' Ball, Stikkbomb Chucka, and all the other upgrades I missed out on EXCEPT Rokkit Launcha.
FAST ATTACK
2 Deffkoptas - Twin-Linked Rokkit Launchas and Choppas.
As you can tell, I'm not very good at writing an army list. I need more practise. On the other hand, I think my army is around the 700-800 point mark, and I know I'm getting Ghazghull Thraka for Christmas. Any suggestions?
|
I like Orks!
Da Emperor gives us Orks 'umies wiv lotsa gunz 'n' fighty.
And from my point of view, Ultramarines suck! 'Specially Marneus Calgar! |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/01 11:24:37
Subject: Re:Ork Army List
|
 |
Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
|
The best advice to an ork player starting out is: more boyz
It appears from your list that the five nobz are on foot. This is a mistake. They need a transport so they can get into combat quickly. Basically you need to make a strategic decision for future spending: are you going to get more trukks and develop a Kult of Speed list, or are you going to get more boyz and go horde? Ghaz in a trukk with nobz can be fine, if you have more trukks and a big mek with a kustom forcefield. However, ghaz is also a bit costly for a 1000 point list.
My advice is to get more boyz, preferably a squad of 30, and then run a few games with the models you have to see how the list performs.
|
PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/01 11:28:44
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Executing Exarch
|
Gabrieltn wrote:HQ
Warboss Goldtoof - Twin-Linked Shoota, Bosspole, 'Eavy Armour and Power Klaw.
I prefer the Combi-skorcha over the TL Shoota personally. On top of this give him an attack squig, and cybork body. All told it will cost you 120.
Gabrieltn wrote:ELITES
5 Nobz + 1 Painboy - Sluggas, Big Choppas, Cybork Bodies and 'Eavy Armour. Painboy has Cybork Body, Choppa and 'Urty Syringe.
After some suggestions and play testing, I say save the pts and drop the 'eavy armor. Give 3 of them PKs, and the other two Big Choppas. Take a Waaagh! Banner too. That will make a very nasty Nob squad. Pts=280
Gabrieltn wrote:TROOPS
20 Boyz - Sluggas, Choppas and 2 Big Shootas.
10 Boyz + 1 Nob - Sluggas, Choppas, 1 Big Shoota and 1 Rokkit Launcha. Nob has Slugga, Power Klaw and a Bosspole.
10 Gretchin + 1 Runtherd - Gretchin with Grot Blastas. Runtherd with Slugga, Grot Prod and Squig Hound.
So few gretchin are worthless. They take one wound and run away crying. Drop them and beef up da boyz! Without the 'eavy armor and the grots you end up with 75 extra points.  I say take two mobs like this: 20 boyz, nob, bosspole, PK=160. And take one more as this:12 boyz, nob, bosspole, PK=112. Whatever you do though, ALWAYS take a nob with your boyz, their LD just isn't worth it without it.
Gabrieltn wrote:DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Trukk - Big Shoota, Grot Riggers, Reinforced Ram, Wreckin' Ball, Stikkbomb Chucka, and all the other upgrades I missed out on EXCEPT Rokkit Launcha.
For a truck just add on RPJ. You don't need anything else because it is so easy to kill. Throw your Warboss and Nobz in one and a mob of 12 boyz in the other. Pts for 2=80
Gabrieltn wrote:FAST ATTACK
2 Deffkoptas - Twin-Linked Rokkit Launchas and Choppas.
Can be nasty, but always put in two separate groups, thus you avoid leadership problems. Pts for 2=90
Gabrieltn wrote:As you can tell, I'm not very good at writing an army list. I need more practise. On the other hand, I think my army is around the 700-800 point mark, and I know I'm getting Ghazghull Thraka for Christmas. Any suggestions?
Its ok, everyone has a learning curve. Until you get Ghazy, if you take the suggestions I gave you will have an army that is exactly 1007. This is a pretty decent list, although I would take either a Big Mek or Kanz instead of the Deffkoptas personally. That KFF is a God send, and Kanz will also get you a cover safe. The list minus the Deffkoptas but plus a KFF Big mek puts you at 1002. I think that is your better option personally. Its all about your style though. 'Ave fun krumpin dose puny tin can 'umies!
|
DR:80+S(GT)G++M++B-I++Pwmhd05#+D+++A+++/sWD-R++T(Ot)DM+
How is it they live in such harmony - the billions of stars - when most men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about someone they know.
- St. Thomas Aquinas
Warhammer 40K:
Alpha Legion - 15,000 pts For the Emperor!
WAAAGH! Skullhooka - 14,000 pts
Biel Tan Strikeforce - 11,000 pts
"The Eldar get no attention because the average male does not like confetti blasters, shimmer shields or sparkle lasers."
-Illeix |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/01 15:48:04
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Tower of Power
|
Combi skorcha is better than twin-linked shoota as you don't need the bosses crappy ballistic skill.
Nobz need to be setup so abusing wound allocation system. I have found they don't need 'eavy armour because you have 5+ invulnerable save and then 4+ feel no pain.
Your 10 boyz cannot have a big shoota and rokkit. Its one special weapon per 10 boyz.
Problem is transport. One trukk won't last long.
|
warhammer 40,000 tactica and hobby blog - www.imperiusdominatus.com
Want list feedback and advice? e-mail imperiusdominatus@live.co.uk
Blood Angels - 2000 Iron Warriors - 2000 Orks -2000 Imperial Guard - 2000
Eldar - 2000 Hive Fleet Krakken - 2000 Dark Eldar - 2000 Necrons - 2000 Grey Knights - 2000 Daemons - 2000 Ravenwing - 2000 |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/01 17:04:40
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
Kutztown, PA
|
Better off going with 'eavy armor and ignoring cybork. 9/10 times if it ignores your regular armor save it will negate FNP as well, and in that case you have probably gotten into a situation in which no amount of 5++ is going to save you from a grizzly fate. Automatically Appended Next Post: Err if it ignores yer 'eavy armor save is what I meant... Everything but flashlights ignore regular ork armor loll
|
This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2009/12/02 17:58:05
David William Toy: 7/11/1953 - 12/27/09, My Father My Friend, Rest in Peace.
Hidden Powerfist for the wi.....
The internet: providing people with numerous faceless mediums with which to suddenly grow a pair since the 1990's
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/01 20:16:59
Subject: Re:Ork Army List
|
 |
Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
|
Max out your ork boys squads, and grots.
Your nobs are to easy to pick out and shoot. They need to be either in a truuk, or not used at all.
Here is the best advise Ive ever seen for an ork list
Orks can do anything that any other army can do and do it better than they can. However, they cannot do everything that any other army can do. Make sense? If you make an ork assault army, they'll out-assault any other army in 40k. If you make a shooting army, you can outgun IG or Tau. If you go foot-slogging, or mechanized, or kan-wall....all those options make you a completely awesome army, but there's a catch. You can only do one of them at a time with an army list.
If you combine a mechanized and a foot-slogging list, you're going to lose. If you have part assault, party shooting, you're probably going to lose. Your strength is in being able to pick something and be completely awesome at it. So before giving you advice on where to go next with your army, you need to pick a theme and build around it. If you want a bike army, or a shooting army; an outflanking army, mechanized, assault, figure out what your playstyle is and start building your units and armylist around that idea.
THAT is the strength of Orks
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/01 21:00:44
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Fresh-Faced New User
|
This has been great advice... thanks! But my problem is money, and that's why I can't get many things.
First off...
I forgot about my Warboss's Cybork Body, and that I was going to turn the Twin-Linked Shoota. However, I still haven't gotten my Warboss back from Golden Demon (I got to the second stage, but then I lost  ), but I don't know if that's a wise decision now...
When I first got some 40K, I didn't know anything about it, so I wanted the big weapons. Then, me and my step bro split AOBR so that I got the Orks, and he got the Space Marines (he has more guys than me!  ). One of the Deffkoptas broke, so I've only got two. I really have wanted to ditch the Deffkoptas in my army, and replace them with Warbikers (Dakka Dakka Dakka!).
When I thought about the Mek with KFF, I thought, "No, I reckon I need a KMB/Shokk Attack Gun.". I'm planning to get some Lootas and Burnas some time, and make them all Lootas. Then I might get some more Lootas for more shooty power!
As for Deff Dreads and Killa Kanz, I've never thought not to have them. They are very, very strong.
More Boyz + More Trukks =  . Making sure my army can be used =  .
Anything you think I should change? (NO MEKS WITH KFFS)
|
I like Orks!
Da Emperor gives us Orks 'umies wiv lotsa gunz 'n' fighty.
And from my point of view, Ultramarines suck! 'Specially Marneus Calgar! |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/01 21:20:52
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Executing Exarch
|
Yeah, KFF Mek. I know you don't want it but trust me, it is gonna save your hide like you wouldn't believe. You really need it if you run trucks. 4+ cover save? Yes please! SAG is just not reliable enough, and never EVER take a KMB. Gak, that is just awful...
|
DR:80+S(GT)G++M++B-I++Pwmhd05#+D+++A+++/sWD-R++T(Ot)DM+
How is it they live in such harmony - the billions of stars - when most men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about someone they know.
- St. Thomas Aquinas
Warhammer 40K:
Alpha Legion - 15,000 pts For the Emperor!
WAAAGH! Skullhooka - 14,000 pts
Biel Tan Strikeforce - 11,000 pts
"The Eldar get no attention because the average male does not like confetti blasters, shimmer shields or sparkle lasers."
-Illeix |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/08 22:29:42
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Fresh-Faced New User
|
Thanks for your advice!
After a sweet Chrismas, my army list has been updated, and for the better!
GHAZGHULL’S WAAAGH!
HQ
Ghazghull Thraka + ammo runt 228 pts.
ELITES
5 Ork Nobz 100 pts.
4 Ork Lootas and 1 Mek 75 pts.
TROOPS
20 Ork Boyz + 2 Big Shootas 130 pts.
10 Ork Boyz + 1 Big Shoota + Nob with Power Klaw and Bosspole 111 pts.
10 Ork Boyz + Shootas + 1 Big Shoota + Nob with Power Klaw, Bosspole and ‘Eavy Armour 116 pts.
5 Nobz + Power Klaw + Big Choppa + Shoota/Rokkit kombi-weapon + Bosspoles + Painboy with Grot Orderly + Cybork Bodies 270 pts.
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Trukk + Red Paint Job + Stikkbomb Chukka + Armour Plates + Boarding Plank + Wreckin’ Ball + Reinforced Ram 75 pts.
FAST ATTACK
Stormboyz + Nob + Bosspole 75 pts.
Warbikers + Nob + Bosspole 90 pts.
HEAVY SUPPORT
Battlewagon + 4 Big Shootas + Killkannon + ‘Ard Case + Red Paint Job + Stikkbomb Chukka + Armour Plates + Grabbin’ Klaw + Reinforced Ram 215 pts.
TOTAL: 1485 pts. WAAAGH!
I still need to buy the Warbikers, but everything else, I already have.
This probably won't be changed. But comment on it anyway.
|
I like Orks!
Da Emperor gives us Orks 'umies wiv lotsa gunz 'n' fighty.
And from my point of view, Ultramarines suck! 'Specially Marneus Calgar! |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/08 23:24:09
Subject: Re:Ork Army List
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
|
Congratulations on having one of the worst ork army lists I've seen in the last few weeks for Orks.
I tend to write books and novels critiquing peoples lists in hopes of bringing them to the light of better lists, but you've neatly caveated yours with "This isn't going to change, but comment anyway."
I don't want to waste perfectly good time on someone who's mind is already made up, so I'll just leave you with my initial congratulations, and my assurances that you're going to get beaten around badly anytime you face a 40k player with tactical competency exceeding that of an untrained monkey.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/09 03:05:12
Subject: Re:Ork Army List
|
 |
Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
|
Hi there. Long time reader, first time poster.
Even though you may not change anything, I still feel compelled to help you with this list. Because, gosh, it needs some TLC.
1. Get rid of all those upgrades on your Trukk, with the exception of the RPJ. Otherwise you're paying 75 points for a vehicle that will be knocked over by a light breeze.
2. Those Nobs NEED upgrades. Give them Cybork body armour, a combination of PK and big choppas, a waaagh banner, and add a Painboy to the group.
3. You seem to be going for a kult of speed type list. Shoota boys don't fit in with this at all. If you HAVE to take shoota boys, take them in groups of 30 and use a whole lot of Killa Kans (or something similar) to give them cover.
That's all I'm going to say. It's been said before, Orks are only good at one thing at a time. Don't try to confuse yourself with lots of different units that do different things, you'll find that they won't ever be more than the sum of their parts.
|
You brighten my life like a polystyrene hat, but it melts in the sun like a life without love, and I've waited for you so I'll keep holding on without you.
"There's nothing cooler than being proud of the things that you love" - Sean Plott
Gold League - Terran |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/09 04:13:14
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
|
if i was you i would not get any more models till you have a very solid list built.
lol just decide what kind of army you want to build and start slowly collecting them till your army is completed.
right now you are is just a little and this and a little of that all mixed together. not to say it wont be fun to play but i would not get any more models unless you are sure you will make use of them.
http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39703
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/269441.page#1180405
please read these.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/10 10:41:03
Subject: Re:Ork Army List
|
 |
Screamin' Stormboy
|
Sorry man, ur list really, REALLY sucks, but if you like to get pummeled around and beaten badly in games (like Dash said) use that list. It's a bad combo of mechanised, outflanking and assulting list, don't use whatever you have your hands on (stormboyz, ammo runt) because if you mix, you'll suck @$$. Do you know why you build bad army lists? you don't take anyones advices and most if not all of them on this thread are good ones. So, you suck, get better
Sincerely,
Condai
|
Orks - REPAINTED into Ice world orks DA BLOO TIDE WAAAAGH! - around 2k pts.
CSM - Nurgle - - around 700 pts.
ORKS RULES
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/11 00:06:11
Subject: Ork Army List
|
 |
Sinewy Scourge
|
Gabrieltn wrote:
5 Ork Nobz 100 pts.
4 Ork Lootas and 1 Mek 75 pts.
Priceless....
|
Also littlenibbler Orks aren't about armour saves.
Orks are about having too many models on the table, and wasting the other guy's time with your movement phase.
Orks are about having the toughest units on the table.
Orks are about not caring about how many bodies are left in a long winding trail until the squad is down to less than a third its starting strength.
Orks are about rolling more dice then you can count without the aid of a calculator or a pen and paper.
Orks are about having totally fething insane characters tearing gak down like Doc Grotsnik, Ghazghkull or Snikrot.
Orks are about being too fething awesome to die...
Lets settle this in the arena http://pantsformer.mybrute.com |
|
 |
 |
|