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Here is a fantastic video explaining most of what is behind the whole, 'Global warming hoax-mails'.




Regardless of how I feel about the science behind global warming, the first two minutes or so of this really explain my sentiment about this whole ordeal. Over the course of more than a decade, it seems that a single word ('hide') is all that is really holding any of this conspiracy theory together. That... in a nutshell, does little to convince me that the whole shebang is utterly rotten; but what do I know... I'm no scientist.

According to Radio 4 there is some evidence of a loss of objectivity towards the end of the series, however that in itself is not confirmation of a global climate change conspiracy or a refutation of the existing science.

It bears further investigation as the point of science is to be objective.

A lot of the emails are just rude slang which when read in context are innocent.

There are a lot of things that don't mesh with the sky is falling crowd's theories. They have been trying to hide the problems with their theories while discrediting anyone who points out that the "man made global warming is going to destroy the world idea" is far from certain.

But of course, it's settled science -- Just be good sheep and don't question!

Wasn't there like 160 GB or e-mails, or was it MB? Oh well, I can't remember. Either way that is alot or e-mails, obviously the GB being ludicrously more. I think this whole thing needs time and a thorough investigation to figure it all out. That is just my two cents...

160MB is a lot of emails.

Really? I get that amount in fan-mail every day. (JK and a bad one at that )

Emperors Faithful wrote:Really? I get that amount in hate mail every day. (JK and a bad one at that )

Fixed...

Dorns Fist wrote:
But of course, it's settled science -- Just be good sheep and don't question!

Do you know what to question? Or are you a quasi-skeptic?

dogma wrote:

Dorns Fist wrote:
But of course, it's settled science -- Just be good sheep and don't question!

Do you know what to question? Or are you a quasi-skeptic?

I don't believe you are asking the right question...

Emperors Faithful wrote:Really? I get that amount in fan-mail every day. (JK and a bad one at that )

I'm playing "Love Plus" too but I'm not nearly that good at it.

Kilkrazy wrote:160MB is a lot of emails.

There was around 3000 emails, at... I dunno, less than a 1/4 of a megabyte each; reading most in less than a minute.... understanding it... ummm... yeah...

I mean, I tried, I looked through a couple, but I seriously have no clue what they are talking about most of the time. Someone versed in the jargon, could easily read through that over the course of a day or two.

Ahtman wrote:
I don't believe you are asking the right question...

Settled Science! says what?

This subject is so politically charged as well that we may as well give up with trying to understand. (the politics of scientific opinion rather than the suits that run the country).

Meandering of the subject slightly I remember being told 20 years ago in school that the town I lived in would be underwater right about....Now. Obviously the subject at hand was in its infancy but I wonder if, along with those theories of the past presented to people my age along with the email fiasco make people such as myself more inclined to skepticism?

Mr. Burning wrote:This subject is so politically charged as well that we may as well give up with trying to understand. (the politics of scientific opinion rather than the suits that run the country).

Meandering of the subject slightly I remember being told 20 years ago in school that the town I lived in would be underwater right about....Now. Obviously the subject at hand was in its infancy but I wonder if, along with those theories of the past presented to people my age along with the email fiasco make people such as myself more inclined to skepticism?

I know

I was told that the world was going to be frozen over and there would be no life in the oceans.

I think down through the ages there have always been people convinced that the world was ending. Either that, or they just crave attention.

Once the AGW left the realm of science to become a political issue the theory went down the drain.

Science is absolute if scientist A manages to demonstrate beyond any doubt that his postulates are right the 99.99% are wrong and any call to consensus is moot and that´s the problem, right now both sides are unable to prove what causes global warming. Theories are being tested but so far nothing is definitive so the call to "fight" AGW that interested parties are making because there is a consensus about AGW is a bunch of crap.

The leaked emails show that there is not a consensus but rather that dissenters have been silenced and that even proponents of the AGW are having trouble with the data available. But of course when ternures and funding to your pet projects are at stake...

M.

Man, I love a soothing british accent. They always sound so wise and sage.

Anybody that's done any work with scientists can tell you that when an experiment doesn't support your hypothesis, "travesty" is pretty much the mildest word you use.