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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/06 16:41:46
Subject: 1500k IG
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Ok, Ive always wanted to get back into Imperial Guard, but without all the infantry that comes with it. So I devised a plan to stuff as many tanks as I could into a 1500k list and 2000k. So here you have my 1.5k list.
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Lord Commissar: 80 Points
Power Sword, Bolt Pistol, Reactor Field, FG
Techpriest- 45 points
Troops-
Veteran Grenadiers Squad- 140 Points
2 Plasma, 1 Melta
10 Veterans.
Veteran Grenadiers Squad- 140 Points
2 Plasma, 1 Melta
10 Veterans.
Heavy Support-
Leman Russ Squadron 1
Leman Russ Battle Tank: 200 Points
LC,HB, Extra Armor
Leman Russ Battle Tank: 180 Points
LC, Extra Armor
Leman Russ Squadron 2
Leman Russ Demolisher: 235 Points
LC, PC, Extra Armor
Leman Russ Squadron 3
Leman Russ Battle Tank: 220 Points
LC,PC, Extra Armor
Leman Russ Executioner: 260 Points
LC, PC, Extra Armor
1,500 Points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/06 17:03:19
Subject: 1500k IG
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The main problem is only twenty scoring squishies with no transport. Another problem is 1000 pts only has 3 targets (tho those targets will have some serious problems). Go all plasma for the vets maybe so they don't have to get close, your tanks are your AT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/06 19:03:22
Subject: 1500k IG
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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I agree, the vets need transports of some kind. Chimeras seem too fragile if you are only going to have two Veteran Squads, so how about Valks/Vendettas? Try removing a russ or two to make the room. A vendetta easily replaces a Leman Russ in anti-tank capacity.
Also, why would you pair an Executioner with a standard LRBT? They have similar targets, but not exactly. The executioner is best at popping the really-heavy infantry like terminators, or light transports. The main battle tank is better at destroying massed infantry and light vehicles. They KIND OF go together, but not really. You would be better putting the other LRBT with the other pair and making a squadron of 3, and running the executioner separately. Unless, of course, the other russ is just an ablative wound for the super-expensive tank. Oh, and BTW, extra armor is useless in a squadron, if I remember correctly, because squadrons already demote stunned results to shaken. That would free up a lot of points right there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/07 01:41:58
Subject: 1500k IG
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Only the last tank remaining benefits from extra armour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/07 03:59:58
Subject: 1500k IG
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Wicked Warp Spider
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I don't see why you'd put extra armour on a LR even when it's not deployed in a squadron. Pretty redundant on what's essentially a static shooting tank IMO.
HQ: I would never ever take a lord commissar in a mechanised list, morale benefits become fairly irrelevant. Take a CCS and kit it out with a chimera and some guns. To get the points for this, scratch the techpriest. Cool model and idea, but paying points for the chance to repair certain results is completely counterproductive.
Troops: When your 20 T3 troops are the only men on the field, carapace armour doesn't cut it. They need to be in chimeras, both for protection and to seize objectives. Also, mixing special weapons isn't usually done, for very good reasons. Take 3xmelta on both squads IMO, your tanks can easily deal with most things that plasma guns are useful against.
Heavy Support: Disclaimer - I think that taking more than 3 LRBTs is a bad idea until you have plenty of troops units, hellhounds/valkyries etc, because the squadron rules present pretty big problems. Here is a suggestion to keep 5 tanks in this section without spending so many points:
3 LRBTs (squadron): 450
1 Demolisher, MM sponsons: 195
1 Executioner, plasma sponsons: 230
That's 875 points compared to your current choices' 1095. There are plenty of ways to muck about with these squadrons, but generally I'd keep the expensive tanks solo, and the cheap naked ones in squadrons. Maybe a squadron of 2 LRBTs, one with plasma sponsons is a good idea - the cheaper one can take the first hits. But I wouldn't put an executioner in a squadron with a LRBT. At any rate, extra armour and lascannons are both overpriced for what they achieve.
Overall: I'd cut wasted points from the heavy support tanks to squeeze in a 3rd veteran squad, all your troops and HQs really need to be in chimeras to allow them to survive in this list (obviously that makes carapace armour fairly useless).
Example list:
CCS, 4 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 145
Veterans, 3 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 155
Veterans, 3 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 155
Veterans, 3 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 155
3 LRBTs (squadron) - 450
1 Demolisher, MM sponsons - 195
1 Executioner, plasma sponsons - 230
Total: 1485 points
Not saying that that's the ultimate list of its type or anything, but I've kept your number of battle tanks and added 2 mechanised units (as well as mounting up your original troops) just by cutting extra upgrades, techpriest and lord commissar.
Hope that helps!
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Eldar Corsairs: 4000 pts
Imperial Guard: 4000 pts
Corregidor 700 pts
Acontecimento 400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/07 06:35:07
Subject: 1500k IG
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Example list:
CCS, 4 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 145
Veterans, 3 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 155
Veterans, 3 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 155
Veterans, 3 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 155
Veterans, 3 meltas + Chimera w/ML and HF - 155
1 Vendetta - 130
1 Vendetta - 130
1 Demolisher w/HF- 165
1 Executioner, plasma sponsons, HF - 230
1 Hydra - 75
~1495pt
That is what I suggest, with a few tweaks here and there if you need.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/07 08:52:33
Subject: 1500k IG
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ibby makes some good suggestions while keeping the flavour of the list.
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