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So what was the negativity around this film. Finally saw it via rental. both I and She Who Must Be Obeyed enjoyed it.
They just screamed necrons to me. I particularly liked the sentient computer discussion towards the end and the giant robot, especially in comparison to Transformers II, in which I could never tell what robot was what.

The internet allows people who really known know their donkey-cave from their elbow to act like they're learned sages. That's why you can trust me, because I freely admit that I'm an idiot.

Frazzled wrote:So what was the negativity around this film. Finally saw it via rental. both I and She Who Must Be Obeyed enjoyed it.
They just screamed necrons to me. I particularly liked the sentient computer discussion towards the end and the giant robot, especially in comparison to Transformers II, in which I could never tell what robot was what.

I thought it was pretty cool, but I just like gak blowing up... Seriously though, my only complaint is that Bale reused his Batman voice for John Conner.
Other than that, I loved it. Especially the callbacks to the original and T2.

warpcrafter wrote:The internet allows people who really known know their donkey-cave from their elbow to act like they're learned sages. That's why you can trust me, because I freely admit that I'm an idiot.

Ditto.


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tblock1984 wrote:

Frazzled wrote:So what was the negativity around this film. Finally saw it via rental. both I and She Who Must Be Obeyed enjoyed it.
They just screamed necrons to me. I particularly liked the sentient computer discussion towards the end and the giant robot, especially in comparison to Transformers II, in which I could never tell what robot was what.

I thought it was pretty cool, but I just like gak blowing up... Seriously though, my only complaint is that Bale reused his Batman voice for John Conner.
Other than that, I loved it. Especially the callbacks to the original and T2.

1. Yes the Wife noticed and was displeased by that as well.
2. I loved them. Even the Wife picked up a few.

I liked the movie I saw in theatres and a rental just two days ago. I really liked the post apocalypse feeling. Oh and the terminator bikers, those were cool.

It was terrible.

Lord-Loss wrote:It was terrible.

What was bad about it?

Frazzled wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:It was terrible.

What was bad about it?

The acting, the storyline, the new super giant robots we're crap.

The only good part was the ending (Because the film is about to end)

What's wrong with giant robots?

They we're stupid giant robots!

D:

I liked it alot, the cameo by Arnie was the best, but Bale could have been cast with a better actor, i didnt like him one bit.
LordLoss, remember suspension of reality, if they were smart giant robots, the movie would have been 2 minutes long.

Sky net: 'our targets are somewhere in north america'..... 1500 nukes later.
'ok 1500 nukes more just to be sure......'

Frazzled wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:It was terrible.

What was bad about it?

Ditto, I am curious...

Hurm... Lemme see:

Awesome

Awesome

Awesome

It was better than I'd heard, but I did have a few reservations about the "plan" the super intelligent skynet came up with....

.... more... random theories than, you know, an actual solid plan.

And I know they'll have done away with all the Health and safety inspectors and so on, but I couldn't help but feel that they might take a few more precautions with the highly unstable, vulnerable and explosive powercells. Asking for trouble really.

I was a little "errr" about Kyle's age...he'd always struck me a being quite a bit older than they talked about when he was sent back, but that's a nitpick I guess.

I couldn't help but think that the ultimate killing machine terminators would have been a lot better punching or strangling or maybe stabbing or shooting their victims rather than the less than effective pick them up and throw them technique.

I enjoyed it. It was a pretty good action movie. I definitely liked the references to the earlier movies. Those have been great in a number of newer “geek” movies lately. The most recent Hulk one, for example, had excellent references both to the comic and the TV show.

As far as being negative, I was pretty let down. I felt that the story was less plausible and the writing noticeably worse than T1 and T2, which are real sci-fi classics. The whole final conflict really seemed underwhelming and too small in scale. And the concept of John going and doing what he did how he did seemed moronic. The great thing about T1 and T2 is, while we get to enjoy s**t blowing up and Arnold’s classic cheesy lines, the storylines and character actions MAKE SENSE. They actually have a brain in addition to explosions and one-liners. Salvation was not up to their standard, IMO.

In addition, I was really psyched right from the first trailers, as visually I think it looked excellent, and Christian Bale is usually great. So my expectations were quite high- kind of expecting T1 or T2 with modern FX, a real lead actor who can act, and getting the full-blown vision of the future we got glimpses of in the first two. Sadly the writing wasn’t there, the world was implausible, and Bale kind of phoned-in his performance. The most disappointing work I’ve ever seen from him. So it was a significant let down from my sky-high hopes.

2 things that me and the wife discussed after the movie.
Why all the useless random fires everywhere? and shouldnt everyone glow in the dark, be sick as hell, and bald from rad fallout?

but then she told me to shut up and remember that suspension of reality thing (i love my wife

Im dissapointed with the Interwebz :(

If I spent money in a theater I might be a bit peeved especially if I was one of those types that don't like cheesey sci-fi summer blockbusters; luckily enough that genre is a favorite of mine whether its Independence Day, Transformers 2, and other such critically abused titles. However I did walk out on Max Payne which seemed very crappy from the first half hour and lacked the budget and cool sci-fi premise to make up for it.

Terminator, like Transformers, is probably a better rental or HBO viewing for most especially considering the price of admission and concessions. People expect a three star movie and these titles are two star features (an arguably generous rating from a critical view). But this is the kind of entertainment I enjoy; doesn't get better than cheesey sci-fi blockbusters.

I thought it was a bit gash me, especially Bale who sounded like Batman all over again.

It was another one of those films where i was contantly going "what the feth would you do THAT for?!"

It was just another flashy B-movie for me; really incomparable with T1 and T2 (and even T3 for me).

The post-apocalyptic mood and those starting scenes with Kyle hunting terminators in the ruins were great. The predictable plot, flat characters and villains cut out right from computer games were not.

What I really hated about the film:
- Christian Bale with his tough look playing John Connor, who was always a bit "outlawish" and less serious character
- Bryce Dallas Howard as Katherine Brewster. Real pity Claire Danes refused to reprise, she gave the character much more "juice" in my opinion. I hardly noticed Katherine in Salvation.

Meh... it was an ok to good movie. I was entertained.

I never understood the nerd rage over it.

GG

I tend to be quite forgiving with films, but for some reason I realy hated Terminator Salvation. I got the feeling that the films makers were veiwing Terminator as just another cash cow to milk.

There were a boat load of quite obvious continuity errors which I found frustrating, certain things just didn't make sense like creeping through a metal detecting mine field, and then running back through it being chased by metal vehicles which seemed to be unaffected. The acting was poor, Christian Bale was realy dissapointing. I also couldn't understand the need for the dodgy CGI Arnie cropping up for a few minutes near the end.

Just my personal opinion though.

it had more lame than cool.

like others said, many parts just didn't make sense.

and then at the VERY END, after making such a huge freaking deal of how strong the dude's heart is, and conners heart is damaged, your sitting there saying "oh god please don't let it be this lame"... and boom, they knock it up a notch.

A lot of people are digging on the eletric weener released on the DVD version of hte film.

G

I found it funny how the terminator who looks like a human, can take boats load of abuse, but the normal terminators get ripped apart!

I wonder how Bale's infamous temper tantrum affected the film, here's the Family Guy version:

Within the context of the film, Skynet was pretty cool.
It'd just have been easier to go back in time to give Sarah Prenatal care or the John Henry route - beat skynet at...Chess? 40k? Tic Tac Toe?

Stupid time travelers.

My problem was there was never more than 1 Terminator in one place at the same time. Sure, made sense when it was on patrol but they assaulted the Terminator factory and there was 1 (maybe 2) that they had to deal with at once.......in the factory......

.. other then the fact the series jumped the shark after T2...

My problem was that I figured out the plot and most likely ending within.... 10 min of the start of the film. And was right.

That disappoints me. (Much as it did with T3)

THe primary source of nerd rage is the break between T2, T3, and T2.5, AKA The Sarah Conner Chronicles. Since the current movies follow T3 continuity, we're seeing a lot of flak over the target zone.

I did not like that the first casualty of the war against the machines was soap. Grimdark doesn´t mean filthy you Hollywood guys!.

M.