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2009/12/09 19:43:30
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Ok so this came up in a battle report.
Do the Chainfists that an ironclad can get go at I4 which is what a DCCW goes at, OR does it cause the Dreds initive to become 1 which goes against what i think 
Does anyone know?
Is GWAR out there?
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2009/12/09 19:58:12
Subject: Re:Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Why do you think the Dreadnougt would strike at normal I score even when using a chain or indeed power fist ? They don't have any rule, in this edition anyway, that permits them to do so.
Remember the DCCW is "merely" a powerweapon that also doubles the wielders S score in CC, it's not a powerfist .
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2009/12/09 20:01:47
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Like what reds8n has said.
They have no rule that allows them to ignore the restrictions of a chainfist going at I1.
Just because something else seems to be similar doesn't mean the rules encompass another similar (but different) weapon.
And like I said in the bat rep, !RAWG (  ) isn't gonna be on for some time.
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2009/12/09 20:02:13
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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AFAIK chainfists strike at I1 no matter what they are moounted on. A DCCW is different in that it makes the Dreadnought S10 and it strikes at initiative.
Thus giving chainfists to a dreadnought = fail in most cases and wasting points.
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2009/12/09 20:07:20
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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Isn't it a bit redundant anyway, as Dreads CCW is already at S 10? I realize you would like to grab that 2d6, but unless you are specifically targeting vehicles, it's quite a loss for your CC capabilities.
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2009/12/09 20:16:46
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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I said the same thing in the bat rep, heh.
The only thing a chainfist Dread is gonna need that chainfist is vs. a Land Raider (CF does nothing vs. a Monolith)...and even then the Hammer is better for the +1 result...str 10 is really nice enough.
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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2009/12/09 20:43:08
Subject: Re:Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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I guess your right.
but the Chainfist looks so cool.
o well I have all the arms swappable.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2009/12/09 20:50:42
Subject: Re:Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The chainfist on the Ironclad is really there to help bust open bunkers, buildings etc etc, the bonus 2 d6 penetration almost guarantees this.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/10 17:12:24
Subject: Re:Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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considering the average roll on 2d6 is 7 yes.
you have to roll two 2s to glance a LR
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2009/12/10 19:50:53
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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You could probably use the chainfist part & just say it's a DCCW. DCCW are very general as to what they actually look like.
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2009/12/10 20:01:26
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Dorian is right.
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2009/12/10 20:52:51
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Lord of the Fleet
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Yeah I agree with Dorian
Whats happened to Gwar!?
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2009/12/10 20:56:20
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Valkyrie wrote:Whats happened to Gwar!?
Suspension/Temp Ban, from what I hear.
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2009/12/10 21:05:14
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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One too many GWAR! episodes for the mods .
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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2009/12/10 21:07:09
Subject: Question about Chainfists on Ironclads
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[DCM]
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Question asked and answered.
As for the other topic, it isn't really appropriate for 'open' discussion.
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