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Is there a direct ruling on this? 60mm cause canis comes on that? But his wolf is said to be massive. Whats the word?

i'd say termy bases or smaller

There is no basis on which to make a ruling except for the Canis model.

"Ask your opponent or your tournament organizer" is the only other real answer you could get for this question...

solkan wrote:There is no basis on which to make a ruling except for the Canis model.

"Ask your opponent or your tournament organizer" is the only other real answer you could get for this question...

I will be going with 60mm simply because Canis' model is the only reference of Twolf base size that we have, and becuase that's what size Bloodcrushers are supplied with.

I would assume 60mm because the box for canis says that it is what one is supposed to use for thunder wolf conversions (making a squad of 5 cost more than $200 American)

ironboyz wrote:I would assume 60mm because the box for canis says that it is what one is supposed to use for thunder wolf conversions

It says that?

If so then theres the answer thanks!

It doesn't say that. A 60mm base is supplied with Canis, thus it is supplied for all the Thunder Wolf models in the current GW range.

Is it that much of a stretch to think that Thunderwolves should be on the same base size as Canis?

Anything else is 'fishy' IMO.

there is no official word on it but the only supporting evidence we have is that they should go on 60mm dreadnought bases. canis is on one and the next most similar models in 40k (jugger riding chaos guys) are also on 60mm.

Since their cavalry, calvary bases until ruled other wise, much like otehr cavalry in the game....demonette riders, rough rider cavalry....etc.

If yoru going to use the canis wolf.....then that base model its supplied with.

I would go with whatever base size comfortably fits the model. Since the 60mm is most likely to fit all my conversions, that's the size I'll be using.

I'd use calvary/biker bases personally until they actuially release a model. Honestly, its stupid to make a unit in the dex with NO model... at all. My friend just proxies them using Chaos Hounds for now.

Highly suggest asking the Tournament Organizer if you are planning on taking a unit to a tournament. Most will tell you to use the 60mm base, since that's what Canis is using. Choosing to not ask first, and show up with stuff on smaller bases may cause you some problems.

Methinks GW should start saying in the codex what size base a model goes on. Instead of just saying the model is mounted on the base it comes with.

It has to be the 60mm, anything else looks an awful lot like cheating. The directive to use the base a model comes with is inescapable here, since there's only one model and he has a 60mm base. Converting TW's from other figs up and mounting them on cav bases is ridiculous.

How is mounting them on calvary bases ridiculous? They are TW Calvary.

Using Canis as a basis for figuring out what base size to use is ridiculous, as Fangir is a the largest of his kind.

Where does it say in the rulebook what a "calvary base" is, though?

Calvary units have been mounted on everything from the rectangular bases formerly used for bikes, 40mm round bases (the Eye of Terror seeker models), and now Mr. C. Wolfborn's 60mm base.

My concern would be to avoid a repeat of the "Bloodletters mounted on horseback" controversy from last year.

Bike/cavalry base makes the most since to me and i agree with ironhide on this the codices should state the base size they belong on. If you are running tournaments to promote your product then you should either specifically state in the rules what an appropriate model or base is or put a file on their website the appropriate base size for ALL models they have rules for.

If you build some thunderwolves it's not like you are going to magnetize them to place them on different size bases to please every TO. As has been suggested here the 60 mm base sounds the most appropriate. From a gaming perspective the larger the base the bigger the advantage for SW. You can easily model them on the current biker bases though. I suppose when Forgeworld releases their models we will have a definitive answer.

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carmachu wrote:Since their cavalry, calvary bases until ruled other wise, much like otehr cavalry in the game....demonette riders, rough rider cavalry....etc.

If yoru going to use the canis wolf.....then that base model its supplied with.

Most sensible. I think I will use bike bases for the time being...

On an unrelated note, I would just like to say I found the perfect proxy models.

This

http://media.photobucket.com/image/heroscape%20deathreavers/Gamgan/Proxies/deathreaver.jpg

the Deathreaver from heroscape is large enough to accomodate a space marine without looking overly silly, and it's half bionic.

My pal bought 6 of these for 15$ bucks. Mounted them on Canis bases.

Dravenguild wrote:On an unrelated note, I would just like to say I found the perfect proxy models.

This

http://media.photobucket.com/image/heroscape%20deathreavers/Gamgan/Proxies/deathreaver.jpg

the Deathreaver from heroscape is large enough to accomodate a space marine without looking overly silly, and it's half bionic.

My pal bought 6 of these for 15$ bucks. Mounted them on Canis bases.

Interesting. I am also looking at fenris wolves from the new heroclix set.

Thanks for the link!

I agree that 60mm are most appropriate. That's what Canis is on, and the next-closest model in the 40k line is a Bloodcrusher, which is also on a 60mm. If you go smaller, I would expect to get some funny looks, and to have to change it when the official model comes out.

Biker/Cavalry (not "Calvary", that's a hill) bases would be appropriate for Fenrisian Wolves.

Mannahnin wrote:I agree that 60mm are most appropriate. That's what Canis is on, and the next-closest model in the 40k line is a Bloodcrusher, which is also on a 60mm. If you go smaller, I would expect to get some funny looks, and to have to change it when the official model comes out.

Biker/Cavalry (not "Calvary", that's a hill) bases would be appropriate for Fenrisian Wolves.

agreed, as the only rule is using the bases supplied with the model, and their is no model yet except for Canis. It seems appropriate to use the 60mm.

Ironhide wrote:How is mounting them on calvary bases ridiculous? They are TW Calvary.

Using Canis as a basis for figuring out what base size to use is ridiculous, as Fangir is a the largest of his kind.

right... and terminators, like guardsmen, are infantry so they're on the same size base... oh, wait, they're not. just because OTHER cavalry use a particular base doesn't mean a brand new model will. the "type" is used to determine the rules that apply to the model, not necessarily the base although they do usually share a common one. the only rules from GW say to use the base that the model is provided with. the only model of a TWC we have is on a 60mm base. the next logical step would be to use the 60mm base until proven otherwise. as for the "largest of his kind" comment, lord zhufor is a HUGE hulking space marine and he's on the same base as as a any normal terminator. fluff =/ rules. otherwise, all marines would be t6 and 6 wounds with 2+ saves with FNP as they're equal to 100 regular humans in combat per fluff.

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Wut he said.

Anything else looks iffy.

There is no TWC model. Canis and his mount are a special character. Not TWC. Not to mention the larger base size plays into his special rules. The only logical assumption would be to wait for a model to be produced, and use that base size. However, my opinion is to use either a 40mm round base or a bike/cavalry base.

At the end of the day, it is your model. So base him on whatever looks best.