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in my last game against CSM, i lost a CC unit against plague marines. I have some bad rolls, but were 11 orks vc 10 marines. I remove 5 of them and he remove 6 of mine. In the LD test i lost and i have lost a unit. I thnik if were 30 boyz i had win easily (even with 20) so i still cant see the great advantage of trukks with so few boyz in it.

Attacking with just 11 orks into a unit of 10 plague marines is a foolish recipie for suicide. You have to reduce their number with shooting or charge them with multiple squads do kill them quickly. You should have a lot more orks in trukks than he has PMs so this shouldnt be a problem. Dont think charging in with a single squad will get the job done. High toughness and good save and FNP means that youre not going to do well with so few orks. Attack with lots of squads at once to see results.

Also always carry bosspoles on your nobs so that you can reroll failed morale tests.

12 orks is not many, but you should have MANY trukks full of orks. Two trukks = 24 orks and 96+ dice at S4 on the charge...

As a lover of the plague marines, I can tell you 22 orks and 2 nobs with powerklaws/bosspoles will fix your problem

But yes, pretty much all CSM can punch on in CC pretty happily, but if you throw multiple PK's at them or a load of boyz at them, you will give them the ol' chop chop. Outnumber them and use hidden powerklaws (the nobs), sheer number of wounds from the boyz and sheer krumpin' power of the klaws should see you through them. The dice gods can always go against you, but thats the dice gods for you

Ah, if only we could go back to the good old Gorkamorka days, when it was essentially:

"If all the boyz in the Mob can stand comfotably within the truck without falling over or tipping, then you can put them in the truck"

I could cram 30 boys into one of my trucks...happy days

rvianarpg wrote:in my last game against CSM, i lost a CC unit against plague marines. I have some bad rolls, but were 11 orks vc 10 marines. I remove 5 of them and he remove 6 of mine. In the LD test i lost and i have lost a unit. I thnik if were 30 boyz i had win easily (even with 20) so i still cant see the great advantage of trukks with so few boyz in it.

If you were to math-hammer out what will happen when your trukk boyz hit a squad of plague marines, you're going to find that you lose every time.

Think about it in terms of points. How many points does 12 boyz cost vs 10 plague marines? Do you think 72 points of boyz with an added 35 points for the nob and powerklaw (107 points) are SUPPOSED to clean up a 175-250 point unit by themselves? That would be outrageous.

Learn to play your orks together, not as individual units.

thanks again dash !!!

One last thing, and it can't be repeated enough for orks: Choose one thing and do it. Shooty orks, green tide, mech, don't split you're forces. These are not space marines or eldar who are versitile and need to be well balanced. This is a massive slavering mod of orks. They can do any one thing better than anyone else, but any two things worse than anyone else.

A mass of orks marching across the field is terrifying. A mass of trukks packed with orks is even worse. 180 shootas blasting 2 shots a turn while moving is also very worrisome. Chose one, and don't mix em.

As for the trukks, know what is even worse? 3 trukks, a battle wagon, and a KFF in the middle of them. My wife has ripped me a new one with that formation.

Never underestimate the KFF.

I'll WAAAGH! to that.

Love the KFF.