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Frazzled wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Okay folk. Can we be a bit more calm?

Everyone give a sidehug to the person next to you, and listen to the soothing sounds of Journey.

I was doing good right up until you mentioned Journey.

Aww, I was gonna sidehug you too.

What?

You're not just a city boy from South Detroit, taking the midnight train going anywhere?!

Kanluwen wrote:What?

You're not just a city boy from South Detroit, taking the midnight train going anywhere?!

Preacherman says its the end of time, and the Mississippii River she's agoin' dry. Stock market's up and the interest is down and you only get mugged if you go downtown.

Don't make me lay into some Kansas, Frazz. I will not hestitate to push this button!

Hassan (the Fort hood attacker) was a terrorist. He had openly stated his beliefs that muslims should "rise up" against multinational forces in Afghanistan and Iraq. He contacted known Al Qaeda sympathisers in yemen. he shouted Allah Ackbar before opening fire. The point is that it is terrorism - an attack for the purpose of advancing a political/religious agenda through the spread of fear.

Where did he say that about his beliefs, was it militant in nature? I wasn't too aware of what he had said on the topic previous to the shootings, by what I had heard of the situation he had not talked much about anything similar before the event. If he had been discussing such things as violent uprising previous to the event, or advocating such things, then it would change the color of the act considerably from a lone crazy to a pre meditated and possibly coordinated act, in which case, definite terrorism.

Kanluwen wrote:Don't make me lay into some Kansas, Frazz. I will not hestitate to push this button!

Careful young man, I have Pat Benatar zeroed in on my position. I'll call that strike in, in a heartbeat. I'm married. I've nothing to lose!

I can top Pat Benatar.


I have Asia "Heat of the Moment" and Right Said Fred "I'm Too Sexy" blended into one horrible act against humanity.

Kanluwen wrote:I can top Pat Benatar.


I have Asia "Heat of the Moment" and Right Said Fred "I'm Too Sexy" blended into one horrible act against humanity.

Attack to the Rear! Run Away!

I think that falls under the heading of crime against humanity...

I think there were some Purple Hearts earned at Pearl Harbour in late 1941.

Were Japanese kamikaze pilots terrorists, or regular members of their country's armed forces?

The human rights issue in the Swiss case is that the constitution has been amended so that members of one specific religion now have fewer civil rights than any other.

That is against the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the former constitution of the Swiss Confederation.

If you cannot see what is disturbing about that, imagine that atheists, muslims and non-denominationals, being the majority in a country, win a referendum that Roman Catholics should not be allowed to burn incense because the smell is offensive. Anyone else can still burn incense, but not Roman Catholics.

But incense smells pretty and makes me happy.

Curse you folk banning it!

Kilkrazy wrote:I think there were some Purple Hearts earned at Pearl Harbour in late 1941.

Were Japanese kamikaze pilots terrorists, or regular members of their country's armed forces?

*They wore uniforms.
*They were part of the actual military.
*They fought under a declaration of war.
*They attacked military targets, in wartime.
Military, against legitimate targets.

Well, to be fair: The United States wasn't officially at war with Japan or Germany, as far as I recall.

But they were providing materiale to Britain and Russia under the lend-lease act, if I remember it right.

Either way, kamikaze pilots would be put into a special category of hell now for their actions.

Kanluwen wrote:Okay folk. Can we be a bit more calm?

Everyone give a sidehug to the person next to you, and listen to the soothing sounds of Journey.

I defy you!

If I can find a willing woman she is getting the fullest front hug I can give!

What's Journey?

Kilkrazy wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Okay folk. Can we be a bit more calm?

Everyone give a sidehug to the person next to you, and listen to the soothing sounds of Journey.

I defy you!

If I can find a willing woman she is getting the fullest front hug I can give!

What's Journey?

Seriously?

Only the best band ever, made even more popular by karaoke renditions of "Don't Stop Believin" by drunk Japanese businessmen.

according to news reports, he made comments of that nature to his superiors and patients as well as at presentations while working at Walter Reed.

Here's a story about his attempted contact with Al Qaeda
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873

and here's a story about his past behavior.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html

Specifically, about half way down, there's a quote. "At Fort Hood, he told a colleague, Col Terry Lee, that he believed Muslims should rise up against American 'aggressors'."

Frazzled wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I think there were some Purple Hearts earned at Pearl Harbour in late 1941.

Were Japanese kamikaze pilots terrorists, or regular members of their country's armed forces?

*They wore uniforms.
*They were part of the actual military.
*They fought under a declaration of war.
*They attacked military targets, in wartime.
Military, against legitimate targets.

OK boys and girls you heard it here first! According to Fraz all those suicide attacks aren't terrorism!

Kanluwen wrote:Well, to be fair: The United States wasn't officially at war with Japan or Germany, as far as I recall.

But they were providing materiale to Britain and Russia under the lend-lease act, if I remember it right.

Either way, kamikaze pilots would be put into a special category of hell now for their actions.

legally they declared war on us. I don't think there were any Kamikaze attacks in Pearl, mayhaps some impromptu crashing planes but not "Kamikazes." Angels dancing on the head of a pin argument though as you correctly point out.

Kanluwen wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Okay folk. Can we be a bit more calm?

Everyone give a sidehug to the person next to you, and listen to the soothing sounds of Journey.

I defy you!

If I can find a willing woman she is getting the fullest front hug I can give!

What's Journey?

Seriously?

Only the best band ever, made even more popular by karaoke renditions of "Don't Stop Believin" by drunk Japanese businessmen.

+1 to Kanluwen. Journey is the best band EVAR. Don't stop believin' and Wheel in the Sky being THE best karaoke songs in existence.

"Don'tu stoppu, Beriebingu!

I'll have to remember that one for next time I visit Japan.

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:according to news reports, he made comments of that nature to his superiors and patients as well as at presentations while working at Walter Reed.

Here's a story about his attempted contact with Al Qaeda
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873

and here's a story about his past behavior.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html

Specifically, about half way down, there's a quote. "At Fort Hood, he told a colleague, Col Terry Lee, that he believed Muslims should rise up against American 'aggressors'."

Yeah, that sounds like an attempt at terrorism. It also sounds like he was incredibly lonely and distraught as well, it's almost like he took up fanaticism to fill some sort of hole in his life. I would feel sorry for him if he didn't kill people. He did though, so no sorry for him. Dudes a coward for finding comfort in violence and targeting innocents that couldn't fight back.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Okay folk. Can we be a bit more calm?

Everyone give a sidehug to the person next to you, and listen to the soothing sounds of Journey.

I defy you!

If I can find a willing woman she is getting the fullest front hug I can give!

What's Journey?

I invite you to check out youtube. Make sure your life insurance is paid up though, so Mrs. KK can live the life of ultimate luxury with Boy Toy #1 after you pitch yourself out a highrise window. Just saying.

oh, there's no doubt he was insane. Hopelessness is a key ingredient in the suicide attacker soup. Kind of like how asian hookers are the key ingredient in my sou... uhm... nevermind.

Oh and Frazzled, 14426 posts? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? C'mon Man.

Don't listen to Frazzled! Embrace Steve Perry's soothing voice!

Seriously though, let's knock off the personal attacks or I will be sad and eat more cheese and break my diet, and Mrs Kilkrazy will be angry with me.

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:oh, there's no doubt he was insane. Hopelessness is a key ingredient in the suicide attacker soup. Kind of like how asian hookers are the key ingredient in my sou... uhm... nevermind.

Thats a waste of a good hoo*cough*. Yes, he was insane.

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:oh, there's no doubt he was insane. Hopelessness is a key ingredient in the suicide attacker soup. Kind of like how asian hookers are the key ingredient in my sou... uhm... nevermind.

Oh and Frazzled, 14426 posts? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? C'mon Man.

So we're all agreed that Kanluwen is insane and this Journey thing is a symptom?

Oh, you're asking for it buddy!

No, loving journey is the single best proof of sanity

woot, 500 posts, woot. I first logged on to dakka back in 2002 as Pvt_Scruffy.

I am not going down without a fight. Time to unleash the nuclear option.

Oh hell no. I WILL unleash the sidehug rap.