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i can see...for this you gonna have to kiss sanity good by... 10 layers of details ...i doubt if i could stay focused and motivated that long.... i am torn between feeling pitty for ye or for envying you...

that is just nuts. Are you sure you just don't want to simplify it a bit?

dsteingass wrote:that is just nuts. Are you sure you just don't want to simplify it a bit?

To be honest, I could not honour the intrincate designs of the dwarves in any other way. And if I am going to build an atoll after that, which will be a much bigger project, I should be raising the stakes by now, in order to prove myself capable of doing the gargantuan scenery piece that the atoll will be.

Viktor von Domm wrote:i can see...for this you gonna have to kiss sanity good by... 10 layers of details ...i doubt if i could stay focused and motivated that long.... i am torn between feeling pitty for ye or for envying you...

In order to stay motivated, I am considering videoblogging about it. I have no camera, however, so I will have to experiment a bit with my mobile phone, lightning, video editing... you know, everything involved in that xD.






I finally managed to work a bit more into my asian ship. I glued both the bow and stern hull bases and got the detailing ready for gluing too. I also built a roof for the center hut, and I also worked on masts and sails, whose shape I hope you will like.

I am still undecided regarding the oars...

These ships all look pretty cool, and I can't wait to see your dwarf ironclad take shape, it looks like a massive undertaking though.

sails i really like... masts have to have more work...for example putting into place to really judge them...

vid blog... good idea... and yep... i am totally for having as much detail as is needed... there isn´t any way around it... you would only feel gakky about it later if you would not do it as planned... thats waht i tell my wfe with her sewing and knitting works... you have to see it through... if you fail..redo from start... don´t get frustrated by the amount of work... get motivated by the future outcome!!!

I think a video blog would be very cool if you did it. Im not sure how long your phone takes videos, but there is an app on my phone that takes a picutre every few moments in like a time lapse, you might be able to get something like that and just string the photos together. I'm really looking forward to the dwarf iron clad.

ohhh this looks cool : )
however I'd love to see you modelling terrain again after this^^

I just finished modelling on the ship (with no oars).

I might go straight into painting it. What do you think about it?

Looks amazing. How many hours did you put into that?

Looks great! Very impressive work

Nice

But the sails look a bit carelessly...
Not really fitting imo : /

TaWaaagh wrote:Looks amazing. How many hours did you put into that?

I tend to work on wargaming scenery about 4-5 hours a week, usually on tuesdays and fridays. It took me about one month and a half to build this ship, so you can do the math. It would be about 30 hours tops. I still need to paint it, however.

IPS wrote:Nice

But the sails look a bit carelessly...
Not really fitting imo : /

I'd say that is because of the long vertical distance from the bottom of the sail to the deck. It is a problem my previous ship also has, although it is not so obvious there, as sails are bigger and taller. That problem is not an easy one, however. A compromise must be achieved between gameplay and aestetics. Shorter masts would look better, but the sails would totally block both the path of the miniatures and line of sight. In addition, no miniature would fit under the sails, and in most ships, lanteen sails would cut the ship deck in several sections.

So it's an aestetic problem I ran into in order to fix a gameplay problem which, in my rule-lawyer heavy heavy environment, took preference xD.

But maybe you're not referring to that. If so, tell me what problem did you detect that I did not recognize.

That's gorgeous, a beautiful piece of terrain.

i´d say go on with the painting... stuff the oars and make a nice painted ship out of that one!!!

2500kgm3 wrote:

IPS wrote:Nice

But the sails look a bit carelessly...
Not really fitting imo : /

I'd say that is because of the long vertical distance from the bottom of the sail to the deck. It is a problem my previous ship also has, although it is not so obvious there, as sails are bigger and taller. That problem is not an easy one, however. A compromise must be achieved between gameplay and aestetics. Shorter masts would look better, but the sails would totally block both the path of the miniatures and line of sight. In addition, no miniature would fit under the sails, and in most ships, lanteen sails would cut the ship deck in several sections.

So it's an aestetic problem I ran into in order to fix a gameplay problem which, in my rule-lawyer heavy heavy environment, took preference xD.

But maybe you're not referring to that. If so, tell me what problem did you detect that I did not recognize.

It's not so much about their size, but the folds are uneven and broken.
Maybe you should use a thinner carboard for the sails?
+you could add little details the the sails themselfs.
Would ´make em look much nicer : )
(u know, ropes and little holes and stuff)

Instantly subbed.......


Wow......

After some inactive weeks, I have finally been able to basecoat and give a black ink to the ship. I still need to paint several red coats to the sails, and highlight everything. I hope to be able to hightlight the wodden planks propperly. I expect to have it protected by varnish by the next weekend.

This third ship is finally done! and as you can see, someone has smelled the cheese stored under the decks! only the varnish layer is still to be done. What do you think? I have some work to do for University, but I expect to be able to start with the dwarven ship in a week or two.

simply beautiful... a daytime pic would be nice...as i only on the last pics could say for sure that it wasn´t just sprayed brown all over...that lighting is way too shabbby for such beautiful models...

This thing has a very nice Pirate junk felel to it. Did the chinese ever use any paddle wheels types at all?

well we have yet to discover grim dark fantasy chineese...^^

Well, then I would say we are close with your offering. Well done.....

Viktor von Domm wrote:simply beautiful... a daytime pic would be nice...as i only on the last pics could say for sure that it wasn´t just sprayed brown all over...that lighting is way too shabbby for such beautiful models...

I have basecoated the ship in black, painted it in brown, applied a black ink twice, and highlighted the surfaces with drybrushing. I fear I was way too subtle in the drybrushing, however, so it won't be noticeable.

mxwllmdr wrote:This thing has a very nice Pirate junk felel to it. Did the chinese ever use any paddle wheels types at all?

According to my limited research, they did. This ship has been built in order to closely resemble a design which appeared on an academic book.


Some more pics:

well it might have looked good with a bit stronger drybrush... but now in daylight it looks very cool...spanish sun does it good it seems^^ in that light the sails particular look very good...

Brilliant! very good looking boat

This stuff is amazing.....


Dude, please share some information on how you get all those cuts so good. I think you wrote something about a Laser cutter?

mxwllmdr wrote:This stuff is amazing.....


Dude, please share some information on how you get all those cuts so good. I think you wrote something about a Laser cutter?

I dream of a laser cutter. I have a standard cutting knife to work with, as that's what I can afford.

Very well done

Just for your eyes, here is a spoilery pic about the dwarven ship:

er....stunning...but what exactly do we see here? front? or to be folded bow?