Shadows of Brimstone (Warhammer Quest like game with a Wild West v Cthulthu Mythos Setting) - KS

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**Bossk_Hogg**

Kroothawk wrote:
I am missing characters with explicit African and Asian background.

Same here. They could have made any of the existing classes a different ethnicity. Or if they wanted to go iconic, a railworker/John Henry type and a Cain from Kung Fu would have been nice and thematic.

**Forar**

I've seen such requests in the KS comments too, but thematic as they may be, I am growing so tired of the obvious stereotypes. Much rather see the rancher be African, or the Cowboy as Asian in the art/background, etc.

And before anyone gets too upset about accuracy/history, let's all remember we're going to be playing this game to cross portals into other dimensions to punch C'thulhu and his brethren in the face.

We left realism and accuracy behind a loooong time ago.

**Alpharius**

...?

Anyway...

This one should benefit from the Heroquest delay too!

**Forar**

Alpharius wrote:
...?

??

**Kroothawk**

Forar wrote:
I've seen such requests in the KS comments too, but thematic as they may be, I am growing so tired of the obvious stereotypes.

Every single player character of this kickstarter is a classic stereotype, so I don't see the point against adding two.

**spiralingcadaver**

There's a difference between archetype and sterotype...

**Forar**

Kroothawk wrote:
Every single player character of this kickstarter is a classic stereotype, so I don't see the point against adding two.

"Rail worker" and "traveling monk" are fine archetypes.

"African Rail Worker" and "Asian Traveling Monk" are so very played out cliches/stereotypes.

Hence my suggestion of playing with one's expectations.

Edit: spiralingcadaver gets it.

**Bossk_Hogg**

Forar wrote:
I've seen such requests in the KS comments too, but thematic as they may be, I am growing so tired of the obvious stereotypes. Much rather see the rancher be African, or the Cowboy as Asian in the art/background, etc.

And before anyone gets too upset about accuracy/history, let's all remember we're going to be playing this game to cross portals into other dimensions to punch C'thulhu and his brethren in the face.

We left realism and accuracy behind a loooong time ago.

Fair enough. I could see how it would be viewed as cliched tokenism, which might be worse than nothing.

**Azazelx**

So on another tangent - can the credit from the high-priced Mine Cart pledges be put towards a second pledge?

ie can the $75 worth of credit from the $475 Mine Cart level be put towards an additional copy of Outlaw?

**Forar**

It's been debated in the comments, and from what I've seen the answer is either No or Maybe. It's definitely not a Yes yet.

It'd be nice, and if someone is willing to give them $550 (possibly plus SH) for that much stuff, I say more power to 'em.

Hell, they say yes and I'll probably throw another $75 their way. Well, depending on whether or not it bumps up the S&H. Making it another $105 might get trickier.

Edit: nope.

From their Reddit AMA:

Assuming that we do allow for multiple Pledges, they would still each require the Shipping charge for international backers, and the Mine Cart bonus credit would not work toward additional Pledges. We are hoping that we can officially announce this option in an update soon.

**Kroothawk**

BTW 1,05 Mio passed and female drifter unlocked. 51 hours to go.

**Bromsy**

I'm thinking about turning my $75 credit into a grizzly bear army. The applications are endless!

**Aeneades**

New Otherworld has now appeared on the addons list.

**Forar**

Bromsy wrote:
I'm thinking about turning my $75 credit into a grizzly bear army. The applications are endless!

"Bear Cavalry?"

"Yuuuup. You're really fraked now."

**Bromsy**

Forar wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
I'm thinking about turning my $75 credit into a grizzly bear army. The applications are endless!

"Bear Cavalry?"

"Yuuuup. You're really fraked now."

I will have bears that launch other bears that are throwing even more bears at you. Also known as the most terrifying thing ever.

And okay, the horror/spaceship otherworld is a pretty awesome idea.

**Squat Kid**

With all these weird worlds as add ons, a Dr.Who type character wouldn't be the worst Idea

**RogueRegault**

Squat Kid wrote:
With all these weird worlds as add ons, a Dr.Who type character wouldn't be the worst Idea

No.

No.

No.

No.

Unless it was Tom Baker.

**Grot 6**

RogueRegault wrote:
Squat Kid wrote:
With all these weird worlds as add ons, a Dr.Who type character wouldn't be the worst Idea

No.

No.

No.

No.

Unless it was Tom Baker.

I like these two.

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50280

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50281

**Kroothawk**

Here the rest

http://www.blacktreedesign.com/northamerica/home.php?cat=2297

BTW 1,1 Mio passed and Henchmen unlocked.

**Alpharius**

The Final Day is almost upon us!

1.5M?

Maybe.

2M?

That would be a shocker, to say the least!

**Azazelx**

Project Update #25: Additional Outlaw, Deluxe Outlaw, and Mine Cart Pledge Levels may now be added by a single backer!
Posted by Flying Frog Productions ♥ Like
Hey Guys,

We just wanted to announce that backers may now officially sign up for additional Outlaw, Deluxe Outlaw, and Mine Cart ($480) Pledge Levels once the Kickstarter Campaign is complete! You can simply increase your pledge amount now and use that funding to select the additional Pledge Levels in the Pledge Manager after the Kickstarter Campaign finishes. This will allow for backers that want to get extra Outlaw sets (with all of the Stretch Goals), Deluxe Outlaw sets (with all Stretch Goals), and Mine Cart sets (with all Stretch Goals and Mine Cart icon Add-Ons). There are, however, three important notes about these options:

- As noted on the main KS page, certain later Round Mine Cart Levels include a bonus credit toward Add-Ons. Additional Mine Cart Pledge Levels DO NOT include this additional bonus Credit.

- The bonus Credit from initial Mine Cart Pledges may NOT be used toward additional Pledge Levels (the Credit is for Add-On items only).

- International backers must include the Shipping costs for EACH additional Pledge Level they select.

A lot of backers have been asking for this option, and we are excited to be able to provide it now! We are getting closer every moment to unlocking more Stretch Goals, and the Belly of the Beast is almost within reach! And if you listen very carefully, you can even hear the Impossible Hell Train in the distance.

-Jason

So people will just use a second KS account to get 2x $75 credit.

**Forar**

It's not my campaign, but if someone offered to pay up nearly a thousand dollars, I think tossing them $150 in credit wouldn't be that much of a problem.

The S&H fees are very reasonable, but all the same, I have doubts doubling up will be particularly attractive outside of the US.

Would love to see some new stretch goals, add ons, and whatnot.

**Alpharius**

There are quite a few new stretch goals actually, aren't there?

**Forar**

Stretch Goals? No.

Optional add ons (ie: a use for all that credit)? Yes. The dice and the 'bag of darkstone' are both new.

Would be nice of them to add to the SG list though. We're almost up to 1.15, might as well show us what's there up to 1.5.

Bluntly put, unless they actually plan to update swiftly, by the time we hit 1.2 or 1.3, it might be too late, given the pattern thus far.

**Alpharius**

I'm pretty sure there are some new(er) stretch goals...

**Azazelx**

Forar wrote:
It's not my campaign, but if someone offered to pay up nearly a thousand dollars, I think tossing them $150 in credit wouldn't be that much of a problem.

The S&H fees are very reasonable, but all the same, I have doubts doubling up will be particularly attractive outside of the US.

Would love to see some new stretch goals, add ons, and whatnot.

I could (theoretically) see adding an Outlaw to a Minecart, but you'd have to be bloody dedicated to get 2x Minecart. And, frankly it'd be silly to do so on the same KS account given their new terms and how easily they're sidestepped. Especially since I'd imagine that 2x Minecart pledges would predominantly be expensive gifts or even getting additional product for resale...

**Forar**

Alpharius wrote:
I'm pretty sure there are some new(er) stretch goals...

We've had up to 1.2m since the update where we hit 1m even. Along with the 1.5 and 2m teasers.

Which ones do you think are new?

**Aeneades**

They have added 2 more stretch goals since then. A new ally and a new XL monster (1.25 and 1.3 million respectively).

(And two new minecart addons although they appeared a couple of hours earlier then the new stretch goals)

**Kroothawk**

1,15 Mio $ passes, Serpentmen Shaman unlocked. 17 hours to go.

2 new stretch goals revealed:
Blacksmith ally (1,25 Mio $)
Darkstone Hydra (1,3 Mio $)

3 new Add-Ons:
New Otherworld Derelict Ship
BEACON Drones for it
Trederra Encounter Pack (cards) "No Man's Land"

Missing Update #24:

New OtherWorld: Derelict Ship! Reddit AMA! New Art Just Arrived!

Helloooooo Brimstone!

I love the smell of Dark Stone in the morning! This is it - the final 48 hours! Time to really hit it guys - be sure to share the project with your friends via Facebook and your followers via Twitter!

We just unlocked the $1.05M SG earlier today and we are well on our way to unlocking the $1.1SG! Unlocking this Stretch Goal means that backers at the OUTLAW or MINE CART levels get the cool new female drifter hero miniature for FREE!

Reddit AMA!

Today, we had a very successful AMA ('Ask Me Anything') session on Reddit.com! We talked with lots of nice folks with questions about our games, the Kickstarter, and many more! Here is a link if you want to read the Q&A: http://www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/1r8xhz/ama_we_are_flying_frog_productions_ask_us_anything/

New OtherWorld: Derelict Ship!

This is one of the coolest other worlds yet! More info about it in the next update!

New Art Just Arrived!

Today, we received new artwork from UK artist, Ralph Horsley. This new piece features the Female Indian Dark Stone Shaman using her tribal magik to hold off a swarm of Hellbats! It is an awesome piece!

Thanks, Scott

Female Drifter and Harvesters are nice, but personally I find all other goals above 1 Mio a bit boring.
Spaceship is okay for Space Hulk etc, but not really fitting Brimstone's atmosphere.

**Joyboozer**

Do I want to back this? The setting is great, but the minis seem a little bland.