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Void shields, and shields in general would be great. Eldar titian shields would be pretty cool as well.

IDK, what non-military purpose would they serve?

Ground-to-orbit capable vehicles which can carry a significant payload seems like the obvious answer. Something like a Thunderhawk or Manta would be a decisive military asset, very useful for commercial purposes and a huge boon to scientific research even without considering what you could reverse-engineer out of it.

Void Shields would be useless on ocean-going vessels. Either they absorb so much energy from the water hitting them that they go boom, or they don't cover the bottom of the boat.

Thinking about the power-cell to a lasgun... that's some pretty amazing stuff. Here's a battery, roughly the size of a pack of cigarettes, that provides pulses of electrical energy powerful enough to create a lethal laser beam.

And it can be recharged in a few hours by exposure to sunlight.

That's some world-changing tech right there. That's a solar cell that,cover the roof of your house with, put some capacitors in your attic or basement, and you have energy to power all your stuff forever. Put them on the roof of your car, an electric engine and some capacitors in the trunk? Your e-vehicle just became super-reliable, without need of local recharging stations.

Put such cells out in sun-farms in the desert and solar energy can replace all other forms of power-generation.

 Psienesis wrote:
Thinking about the power-cell to a lasgun... that's some pretty amazing stuff. Here's a battery, roughly the size of a pack of cigarettes, that provides pulses of electrical energy powerful enough to create a lethal laser beam.

And it can be recharged in a few hours by exposure to sunlight.

That's some world-changing tech right there. That's a solar cell that,cover the roof of your house with, put some capacitors in your attic or basement, and you have energy to power all your stuff forever. Put them on the roof of your car, an electric engine and some capacitors in the trunk? Your e-vehicle just became super-reliable, without need of local recharging stations.

Put such cells out in sun-farms in the desert and solar energy can replace all other forms of power-generation.

Yep and depending how it exactly works could be safer than both power armor and stealth suit nuclear power generation.

Military wise they wont have to worry as much about troops running out of ammo mid battle.

 Melissia wrote:
IDK, what non-military purpose would they serve?

Protection against Asteroids was already stated. They'd also give some protection from solar radiation.

 Psienesis wrote:
Thinking about the power-cell to a lasgun... that's some pretty amazing stuff. Here's a battery, roughly the size of a pack of cigarettes, that provides pulses of electrical energy powerful enough to create a lethal laser beam.

And it can be recharged in a few hours by exposure to sunlight.

Wait, what? Where does it say they can be recharged in sunlight? I know about tossing them in the campfire, but...

As an eldar player i'd hate to admit it but Power Armor is clearly the winner here. Just think about it, we could have dudes charging into battle with swords and such while being impervious to puny, useless bullets. Wars fought with swords and such are coming back 2k30 you heard it here first guys.

Stealth suits, hands down. In modern warfare being near undetectable makes something of higher strategic and tactical value than being evasive or heavily armoured. Diffucult to detect > hard to hit > resilient to hits.

The idea of giant walking war machines is cool but its not very practical. I could only envisage small highly mobile walkers or battlesuits. Something 60 feet high is just asking to be shot at or tripped up. Likewise any huge tanks or aircraft are impractical.

The military really wouldn't care about tanks and guns, they got that stuff down pat already. What they would want is something that can do things so far ahead where our current technology is at.

Are any of the choices aircraft that can go from the ground to orbit all from it's own power? If so I think they would go with that since it would open up the possibility for more satellites and being able to effectively jump over borders.

If not, power armour then. It is made out to be vacuum proof, and with all the goodies it has, NASA and the military would be all over it. Hell just figuring out the power source would be such a huge game changer for humanity with power generation.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Protection against Asteroids was already stated. They'd also give some protection from solar radiation.

So nothing, really.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Wait, what? Where does it say they can be recharged in sunlight? I know about tossing them in the campfire, but...

Dark Heresy and the Primer, IIRC.

 Very Superstitious wrote:
The military really wouldn't care about tanks and guns, they got that stuff down pat already. What they would want is something that can do things so far ahead where our current technology is at.

Lasgun power packs. Those things would put the military forward in every conceivable area, from armor, to equipment, to weapons, to vehicles of all sorts. Super-advanced, compact batteries would be a godsend.

I chose Terminator Armour specifically because it was the one option with built-in teleportation.

Could you imagine how many counter-terrorism operations could be ended in one fell swoop if you had a single mole with a Teleport Homer in place (or even could just get a rough estimate of the target's location). No need to give your position away and re-enact Black Hawk Down. Just teleport in, vaporize your target, and get back out.

 MagicJuggler wrote:
I chose Terminator Armour specifically because it was the one option with built-in teleportation.

Could you imagine how many counter-terrorism operations could be ended in one fell swoop if you had a single mole with a Teleport Homer in place (or even could just get a rough estimate of the target's location). No need to give your position away and re-enact Black Hawk Down. Just teleport in, vaporize your target, and get back out.

Termiantor suit's don't teleport. They need a teleportarium to do so.

 Melissia wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Protection against Asteroids was already stated. They'd also give some protection from solar radiation.

So nothing, really.

Micro-asteroids and solar radiation is no joke. Protection from that would be very useful.

 Melissia wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Protection against Asteroids was already stated. They'd also give some protection from solar radiation.

So nothing, really.

How can you say that? Asteroids are a significant problem in space travel, hell, even a coin sized piece could wreck the ISS. Radiation is a problem for long periods in space and on planetoids without sufficient protection. Mars colonization plans have to take into account radiation and the best they've come up with yet is burying the living areas underground like bunkers. Also, the Shields would protect against dust-storms which would damage equipment/ cause great deals of wear.

It's almost undoubtably obvious that it is power armour. This is due to all the technology that is accompanied in the suit along with the protection, increased strength, senses, power, speed etc etc. I mean, develop power armour, you have fusion reactors readily available, just reverse engineer them and expand them. That clears up 99.99% of the worlds energy needs and problem right there. You have the ultimate space suits that can pretty much do anything you would require them to do. You have all the other applications in a civil capacity that it provides, construction, medical, transport (you can certainly run up to medium distances in a good time in these, why use a car in congested areas then).

The problem with the riptide is you wouldn't want to unleash it on civil contractors, it would just then be military grade equipment, power armour can be scaled down and engineered to do whatever you want with it. The civil suits don't need the good armour, they just need the speed and strength, so that means that rogue users can still be taken down easily if required. Also, if you have power armour and fusion reactors, there's no stopping you making a riptide-isn suit, you just expand the technology.

Yep, power armour, no absolute any other candidate for it.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Yep, power armour, no absolute any other candidate for it.

What do you call a stealth suit without stealth?

Power armor.

Yeah. One of the options on the list is literally power armor plus a stealth device and jetpack, and there are people who are so blind to the truth of the Greater Good that they never stopped and thought about all of their options.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
It's almost undoubtably obvious that it is power armour. This is due to all the technology that is accompanied in the suit along with the protection, increased strength, senses, power, speed etc etc. I mean, develop power armour, you have fusion reactors readily available, just reverse engineer them and expand them. That clears up 99.99% of the worlds energy needs and problem right there. You have the ultimate space suits that can pretty much do anything you would require them to do. You have all the other applications in a civil capacity that it provides, construction, medical, transport (you can certainly run up to medium distances in a good time in these, why use a car in congested areas then).

The problem with the riptide is you wouldn't want to unleash it on civil contractors, it would just then be military grade equipment, power armour can be scaled down and engineered to do whatever you want with it. The civil suits don't need the good armour, they just need the speed and strength, so that means that rogue users can still be taken down easily if required. Also, if you have power armour and fusion reactors, there's no stopping you making a riptide-isn suit, you just expand the technology.

Yep, power armour, no absolute any other candidate for it.

But to bring up the point of fusion reactors being in the hands of the public....

You just put fusion reactors into the hands of the public...

and you know how the public gets. one bad apple might try to set one off as a bomb. which would be catastrophic.

Edit: Exactly the same thing with the Stealth suits.

Edit2: as well the fact that if ANY of these suits get caught by the bad guys they too can do the same. (if we are talking about modern style terror combat)

Are stealth suits a suit, or the synthetic linked in sensory fibre muscle things that power armour is? If it isn't the latter, it's still power armour that is the greater invention, power armour opens up to incredible bionics that can be linked directly into the CNS of users. Top end astartes grade power armour is more amazing than tau suits unfortunately, due to all the ways it is used. A tau suit you step in to, power armour can become you.


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 Desubot wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
It's almost undoubtably obvious that it is power armour. This is due to all the technology that is accompanied in the suit along with the protection, increased strength, senses, power, speed etc etc. I mean, develop power armour, you have fusion reactors readily available, just reverse engineer them and expand them. That clears up 99.99% of the worlds energy needs and problem right there. You have the ultimate space suits that can pretty much do anything you would require them to do. You have all the other applications in a civil capacity that it provides, construction, medical, transport (you can certainly run up to medium distances in a good time in these, why use a car in congested areas then).

The problem with the riptide is you wouldn't want to unleash it on civil contractors, it would just then be military grade equipment, power armour can be scaled down and engineered to do whatever you want with it. The civil suits don't need the good armour, they just need the speed and strength, so that means that rogue users can still be taken down easily if required. Also, if you have power armour and fusion reactors, there's no stopping you making a riptide-isn suit, you just expand the technology.

Yep, power armour, no absolute any other candidate for it.

But to bring up the point of fusion reactors being in the hands of the public....

You just put fusion reactors into the hands of the public...

and you know how the public gets. one bad apple might try to set one off as a bomb. which would be catastrophic.

Edit: Exactly the same thing with the Stealth suits.

Edit2: as well the fact that if ANY of these suits get caught by the bad guys they too can do the same. (if we are talking about modern style terror combat)

If you are worried about fusion reactors being in the hands of public, then I believe some power armour can be battery powered, or fossil fuel powered, you still have the fusion tech, you just can be guarded with it and use super batteries that power armour also provides.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:


If you are worried about fusion reactors being in the hands of public, then I believe some power armour can be battery powered, or fossil fuel powered, you still have the fusion tech, you just can be guarded with it and use super batteries that power armour also provides.

Im not recalling any sort of super battery tech in power armor or Stealth suits.
edit: and depending on the power drainage im sure battery or diesel powered suits wont last long at all.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Are stealth suits a suit, or the synthetic linked in sensory fibre muscle things that power armour is? If it isn't the latter, it's still power armour that is the greater invention, power armour opens up to incredible bionics that can be linked directly into the CNS of users. Top end astartes grade power armour is more amazing than tau suits unfortunately, due to all the ways it is used. A tau suit you step in to, power armour can become you.

Aside from assuming that stealth suits work differently because you don't have proof they work the same, you DO realize that SM power armor is worthless without the black carapace, right?

 EmpNortonII wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Are stealth suits a suit, or the synthetic linked in sensory fibre muscle things that power armour is? If it isn't the latter, it's still power armour that is the greater invention, power armour opens up to incredible bionics that can be linked directly into the CNS of users. Top end astartes grade power armour is more amazing than tau suits unfortunately, due to all the ways it is used. A tau suit you step in to, power armour can become you.

Aside from assuming that stealth suits work differently because you don't have proof they work the same, you DO realize that SM power armor is worthless without the black carapace, right?

OP came out and said to assume they work some how......

 Desubot wrote:

 EmpNortonII wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Are stealth suits a suit, or the synthetic linked in sensory fibre muscle things that power armour is? If it isn't the latter, it's still power armour that is the greater invention, power armour opens up to incredible bionics that can be linked directly into the CNS of users. Top end astartes grade power armour is more amazing than tau suits unfortunately, due to all the ways it is used. A tau suit you step in to, power armour can become you.

Aside from assuming that stealth suits work differently because you don't have proof they work the same, you DO realize that SM power armor is worthless without the black carapace, right?

OP came out and said to assume they work some how......

Right, right....

That was 10 pages ago.

So, seriously, why is the #1 item here the Imperium's stealthless stealth suit?

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 EmpNortonII wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Are stealth suits a suit, or the synthetic linked in sensory fibre muscle things that power armour is? If it isn't the latter, it's still power armour that is the greater invention, power armour opens up to incredible bionics that can be linked directly into the CNS of users. Top end astartes grade power armour is more amazing than tau suits unfortunately, due to all the ways it is used. A tau suit you step in to, power armour can become you.

Aside from assuming that stealth suits work differently because you don't have proof they work the same, you DO realize that SM power armor is worthless without the black carapace, right?

OP came out and said to assume they work some how......

Right, right....

That was 10 pages ago.

So, seriously, why is the #1 item here the Imperium's stealthless stealth suit?

Its because not everyone here has such a raging Blue boner. seriously we get you are a major tau fangirl.
Its also possible people just want boob armor and or non space marine armor
or that they didnt understand OP in the assumption that normal humans can use things they cant possible use.
or that they dont have all the information to make a good choice. edit since a lot about Tau stuff isnt well documented compared to imperium stuff.

Im still standing by the Lasgun for the most not earth destroying tech. i dont need an army of walking fusion bombs. i would however like a heat/solar powered rechargable battery that can power my car/house/phone/etc.

Because power armour is adapted to human physiology, which well, tau suits aren't?

And because Tau stealth suits make it hard to hold guns.
Therefore, unless the stealth suit tech also comes with Tau weapon tech, the power armour is better.

Oh, looks like power armour backpacks, as well as been fusion reactors, have reserve batteries (which must be pretty decent to power the unit) and solar collectors for emergency use, which is obviously going to be at least on par if not better than the guardsmens lasgun solar panels.

So, looks like power armour can be charged up and used if the fusion reactor needs to be removed for safety purposes in the civi sector.

Forgot to mention the deep sea diving capability of power armour without the need for external oxygen tanks, or haz mat disasters.

By military I assume you mean a Western military. And since I am in one of those, then I'll put my thoughts into what I think would best serve our purpose.

Any technology would be mostly picked based on:
1) Cost of manufacture, maintenance, and replacement
2) Ease of transportation, size, and weight
3) How useful a product would be to the frontline soldier
4) How understandable its use would be to the average soldier
5) How little it falling into the enemies hands would hinder the mission of the unit

I couldn't choose any of the things listed in the poll because they are flawed stacked up against one of the things listed above, or their jobs are performed better by what we have today (M1 Abrams > Leman Russ).

If I had to make a choice to transfer one of the things on the list to today, I'd probably pick the communication devices that the common guardsmen have (the little radios in their helmets so we don't have to lug around giant radios to talk to each other) because they are apparently mass produce-able enough for them to give to guardsmen- or the pict-slate table things that project that holo-gram in war rooms. Something like that would massively help the planning process.

I could go down the list and give practical reasons things wouldn't be as beneficial as they sound but that would take way too long.

 Ignatius wrote:


I could go down the list and give practical reasons things wouldn't be as beneficial as they sound but that would take way too long.

But thats half the fun.