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Really, really like both the female Liberator, and Liberator-Prime Severin. Stormcast look so much better when they have so e character to them, rather than big gold automatons.

The systems that are being imported are heavy improvements over the equivalent 40k rules. The three ways to play is fantastic, command points(what they're calling the thematic army rewards) should work very similarly to allegiance abilities and look awesome. Rend is a much better system than AP, battleshock works well at stopping close combat from bogging down into pointlessness like it always does in 40k when two units that actually CAN fight each other try to. The move statistic is w/e, but works well in AoS so hopefully that carries over well. Things are looking good!

what remains to be seen is if cover is going to work like sigmar, where it is a modifer to your base save. This could be interesting as it could make space marines that stand out in the open more vulnerable, while also actually giving them a benefit for taking cover. That change alone could make the game more tactical for some factions. For lower save armies however, the effect may end up being the opposite as a +1 to your save from a 6+ is almost not even worth the trouble.

Movement rates, save modifiers and bravery? Sounds like 40K is being AoS'd. Guess weapons with set wounding values (ie. no toughness v strength) are next. But there are no tanks in Baghdad.

Deathguard look interesting. I'm very surprised at Plague Cultists w/weapons. Figured we'd just get Zombies. Very happy Terminator as well. Can't wait to get a full look at them.

I bet I can guess the next 40k releases after DG and Mortarion. More Primarchs. *snooze* I hope they show off the Aelves at the con. That's what I'm here for.

Gonna have to pick up whatever kit that female liberator is in. GW actually made a bulky, not overly high-heels-and-leather female model. Is this the end of days?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Movement rates, save modifiers and bravery? Sounds like 40K is being AoS'd. Guess weapons with set wounding values (ie. no toughness v strength) are next. But there are no tanks in Baghdad.

Im not sure many people have disputed that 40k rules were likely heading the way of AOS. In fact, I think a lot of people have been actively hoping for it. Not sure why youre trying to conflate the fact they aren't blowing up the setting with rules changes.

Can we not just enjoy the fact GW are previewing new releases without having to invent something to be upset about?

And it's not like move stat, armor save models, and Battleshock can't be implemented while also keeping a S/T system.

 Starfarer wrote:
Not sure why youre trying to conflate the fact they aren't blowing up the setting with rules changes.

When people have been arguing back and forth for the last 6 months or so about whether or not 40K was being turned into AoS, it was the rules changes they were primarily talking about.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/23/news-from-the-plague-planet/ DG video

 NpSkully wrote:
Tbh I hate Sigmar leadership. Unless somehow all armies have a way of just ignoring leadership altogether (which makes the whole issue pointless) then it really hurts. 20 dudes can win combat and then all run away despite the fact that they are winning, that's silly. Playing orks, nids, genestealer cults and guard is gonna be unpleasant to say the least lol

*Also someone mentioned charging units striking first? How is that not broken? Does unwieldy cease to exist?!

I think we are looking at a full revamp of the system. Or at least key aspects.

Gamgee wrote:I bet I can guess the next 40k releases after DG and Mortarion. More Primarchs. *snooze* I hope they show off the Aelves at the con. That's what I'm here for.

Yeah DG are exciting because Nurgle plastics are always excellent, but I don't think they should go bringing back many loyalist primarchs in particular. They risk ruining the setting by doing this...it gives mankind too much hope...and we can't have that.

Tactical_Spam wrote: Gonna have to pick up whatever kit that female liberator is in. GW actually made a bulky, not overly high-heels-and-leather female model. Is this the end of days?

It's kind of overdue, I always figured a female stormcast would look like that and it seemed they nailed the look. No reason they couldn't do variant bodies in past kits, but I guess they wanted to individualize the models in Shadespire a bit more.

I haven't seen much about the rules though aside from it being on hexes, looking at the cards there are several numbers but without context I really couldn't say how complex this game is going to be.

 Thargrim wrote:

Gamgee wrote:I bet I can guess the next 40k releases after DG and Mortarion. More Primarchs. *snooze* I hope they show off the Aelves at the con. That's what I'm here for.

Yeah DG are exciting because Nurgle plastics are always excellent, but I don't think they should go bringing back many loyalist primarchs in particular. They risk ruining the setting by doing this...it gives mankind too much hope...and we can't have that.

Tactical_Spam wrote: Gonna have to pick up whatever kit that female liberator is in. GW actually made a bulky, not overly high-heels-and-leather female model. Is this the end of days?

It's kind of overdue, I always figured a female stormcast would look like that and it seemed they nailed the look. No reason they couldn't do variant bodies in past kits, but I guess they wanted to individualize the models in Shadespire a bit more.

I haven't seen much about the rules though aside from it being on hexes, looking at the cards there are several numbers but without context I really couldn't say how complex this game is going to be.

I could see GW doing an upgrade kit for female stormcasts for your liberators or other units.

Paying more to have females? Hmmm. Just put them mixed in the next Stormcast-unit box.

And yes, that mortarion leak seems confirmed now with the image of the Scythe of Mortarion.

So... can we call the Nu-Space Marine leak legit too?

 Galas wrote:
Paying more to have females? Hmmm. Just put them mixed in the next Stormcast-unit box.

And yes, that mortarion leak seems confirmed now with the image of the Scythe of Mortarion.

So... can we call the Nu-Space Marine leak legit too?

I don't think GW will rebox them again but an upgrade kit seems quite elegant and I could see GW doing it if demand is enough, I would put up money for it. If GW does it I will have a mix gendered army. All they gotta do is make new chest pieces with some new helmets or faces and they would be good to go. Since looking at the sprue's that is all they will need. Hell I would not turn down a new box either but I don't see GW doing another box since stormcast just got updated.

Posting a direct link to the video so people don't have to click links.


Also, 7th Legion? Really? C'mon GW, get your own fluff straight.

Well nurgle's holy number is 7 maybe they discarded their old one I am quite surprised GW will got something like this wrong but hell people can make mistakes.

I must say that I'm bit surprised to see that just putting boob armour on a sigmarine is viewed with such enthusiasm

II don't thik this guy was posted

 streetsamurai wrote:
I must say that I'm bit surprised to see that just putting boob armour on a sigmarine is viewed with such enthusiasm

I must say that I'm bit surprised to see that just putting the battleshock rule on the W40k ruleset is viewed with such alarmism.


EDIT: That nurgle marine its lovely. I just love the eyes. My fatty marine.

 insaniak wrote:

 Starfarer wrote:
Not sure why youre trying to conflate the fact they aren't blowing up the setting with rules changes.

When people have been arguing back and forth for the last 6 months or so about whether or not 40K was being turned into AoS, it was the rules changes they were primarily talking about.

Youve been visiting different threads than me then.

So, you guys attending Adepticon have taken seats at the second seminar?

Shadespire now too, also a Facebook page https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/23/shadespire-unveiled/ there's more than just video here

 shinros wrote:
Well nurgle's holy number is 7 maybe they discarded their old one I am quite surprised GW will got something like this wrong but hell people can make mistakes.

Perhaps they're intimating that they're only half of what they once were.

Direct link video. Digging the art snippets also I think the music is kinda hinting the themes death is going for in AOS.

Warhams-77 wrote:
So, you guys attending Adepticon have taken seats at the second seminar?

It's the same presentation done twice so more people can see it;

Shadespire could be really cool if reasonably priced and it gets sufficient support in various expansions.If the core set is priced at roughly 30-35 USD, and they release expansions containing 3-5 models for various factions for roughly 20-25 USD I could be interested. Those prices don't seem unreasonable for the contents of the core set at least.....a small board, 8 minis, a couple decks of cards, a rulebook, and some dice.

I'd love to have an AoS influenced game that I could set up on my coffee table and play a game in 30 minutes.

Edit: looks like 8 minis, not 7.

Right some images.

The game is played using unique dice and card decks, and these will, to an extent, be unique to each faction. Both decks of cards used in the game are fully customisable – meaning you can choose to create all manner of combinations of overlapping abilities to use and objectives to achieve. This can be a really rewarding part of the game – and means that even the same faction can be played in wildly different ways. We’re expecting to see all sorts of combinations tried out at game stores, clubs and in tournaments.

I love when games advert as that.. you know there will be 1-2max builds for each mob that is the 'right' build

 VeteranNoob wrote:
Shadespire now too, also a Facebook page https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/23/shadespire-unveiled/ there's more than just video here

Out later this year...hopefully not too far off, they said the same thing about WHQ Shadows Over Hammerhal and it didn't take too long for that to come out. Exciting thing is they hint at small sets of unique push fit models for the game for other factions as well. "including some for factions that have not received any new miniatures since we first ventured into the Age of Sigmar". This is exciting, how about some Seraphon/Skaven/Undead? And it doesn't seem like this game will take too long to play. I loved Blood Bowl, but sometimes I would play a single half instead of a full game because it can take a while so maybe this game will hit the spot.