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I was watching They Live the other day and as I was watching it I was actually asking myself what if they are among us? I remain fairly usure about aliens but a part of me felt that there was somthing wrong with the world, but it wasn't obvious things like climate-change. Then I thought what if they were the ones behind new technologies like new thinner HD TVs because it doesn't seem right that we go and buy the latest TV and then another one comes out that is even better next month there is just somthing not right about it, and have you ever noticed how most of the worlds leaders look cold and stiff, like they are being manipulated or they ARE aliens in disguise, because I imagine a leader being warm, loving and welcoming. What if they are using us as cattle, as they get wealthy we get poor? What if the have all the top spots at work? Now don't go labelling me as some crazy UFO beliver because I'm not I just thought I might as well share it, and get your views because it is quite an interesting topic. Also I don't want any silly comments, this is supposed to be a serious thread!!!

yep, unfortunately they keep crossing the border between mexico and california every day.

I WANTED SERIOUS ANSWERS!!!If you don't have something to contribute don't contribute at all!!!

Ask a silly question, get a silly answer.

What would be the point of crossing who knows how many light years to 'use us as cattle?'

Maybe leaders look 'cold and stiff' to you because they want to make sure that they don't end up doing anything silly on camera in public, or that their opponents can use to take swipes at them back home, which is the only way you see them. Or they're busy thinking about big, country running stuff and so forget to look like someone you want to have a beer with.

THERE ARE NO EXTRATERRESTRIALS...

THERE IS NO EMERGENCY...

RETURN TO YOUR HOMES.

colonnello wrote: I was watching They Live the other day and as I was watching it I was actually asking myself what if they are among us? I remain fairly usure about aliens but a part of me felt that there was somthing wrong with the world, but it wasn't obvious things like climate-change. Then I thought what if they were the ones behind new technologies like new thinner HD TVs because it doesn't seem right that we go and buy the latest TV and then another one comes out that is even better next month there is just somthing not right about it, and have you ever noticed how most of the worlds leaders look cold and stiff, like they are being manipulated or they ARE aliens in disguise, because I imagine a leader being warm, loving and welcoming. What if they are using us as cattle, as they get wealthy we get poor? What if the have all the top spots at work? Now don't go labelling me as some crazy UFO beliver because I'm not I just thought I might as well share it, and get your views because it is quite an interesting topic. Also I don't want any silly comments, this is supposed to be a serious thread!!!

So your idea is that aliens have flown lightyears to come to Earth to build progressively smaller televisions to encourage a materialist society while also taking on the forms of our world leaders... I think you'll probably be happier with joke answers over serious ones.

usernamesareannoying wrote:yep, unfortunately they keep crossing the border between mexico and california every day.

Actually, since you didn't actually specify what kind of aliens, I see nothing wrong with this post.

I assume you mean extra-terrestrials.

So, Thinner HD TV's have made you suspicious (and/or the idea that technology progresses)? I'm sorry but I am fairly certain that has more to do with companies always giving people mostly what they want but not everything, entirely at once (think various DVD special editions). This coupled with perpetuating the idea of "keeping up with the Jones-es" (among other things) makes for a pervasive business model. In other words, many businesses do this, even GW: New Rules, new codex, new units, new models. It is just how businesses operate.

As for World Leaders, Bookwrack already said it best.

I think the first step in seriously entertaining the idea if aliens are among us asking yourself a few questions...

Why would aliens be among us?
Why would they keep it a secret?
What do they stand to gain by being here?
What do they stand to gain and/or lose by staying hidden?
What could their goals actually be?
Are their values, beliefs and sense of morality even remotely similar to ours?

And these are just a few off the top of my head. Also, it is probably best to stay away from Hollywood answers like, "They want our water!" or "They're trying to fatten us up for a buffet!". Unfortunately movies have filled us with many silly invasion ideas simply for the sake of a story and it is probably best to think in terms more aligned with reality. Even if, by our best current scientific guess, interstellar travel is extremely unlikely, at least in one generation as we know it.

Just some of my thoughts on the matter.

if aliens wanted anything of ours, if they were advanced enough to get here, they'd be advanced enough to just take it and murderize us all instead of pretending to be like us for their own nefarious needs.

Yuk! Spoil sports. Nobody uses their imaginations just to make it interesting and just to see what I am talking about, you have to see the film to get what I mean.

I saw the movie in the theaters when it came out. All I remember from it is a 12 hour fight scene over a pair of sunglasses.

Take a step back and read your post - do you really think aliens have come from beyond to milk us for money by releasing thinner tvs? If they can travel across space, nothing we can make will be of any value to them after you factor in transportation costs.

Another element to consider- if you've been able to notice 'something wrong' with the world, don't you think that people with access to satellite data, a world of intelligence gathering agencies and millions of bloodthristy reporters would have noticed too? And that if all of these various folks from different creeds, perspectives and abilities haven't discovered an alien in the thousands of years since man first looked to the heavens and wrote down what he saw, that maybe there isn't really anything out there that is visiting and manipulating us?

Unless we humans produce some drug in our cockles that allows the aliens to go into a trance and see the right way to fly through space (unlikely) we should be safe from infiltration.

What you're seeing is just good old fashioned human nature. The powerful are so careful of maintaining their power that they become almost inhuman while wielding it. Humans are greedy and resourceful- thus your X-box will break every few years and it is cheaper for microsoft to replace it than to build a system that can last for 10 years until they release their next system. Technology will continue to grow smaller and more advanced, because it creates a higher profit margin if you are using fewer raw materials. The simplest solution is usually the best.

This is a what if? question, not that there actually are aliens on earth, that would be crazy!!

utan wrote:THERE ARE NO EXTRATERRESTRIALS...

THERE IS NO EMERGENCY...

RETURN TO YOUR HOMES.

DO NOT ADJUST YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

http://www.k3pgp.org/seti/aliens.jpg

Necros wrote:if aliens wanted anything of ours, if they were advanced enough to get here, they'd be advanced enough to just take it and murderize us all instead of pretending to be like us for their own nefarious needs.

They'd also be advanced enough to acquire whatever they want from literally millions of closer sources too. Neither hydrogen or oxygen are at all rare, so naturally occurring water is not something that they'd have to come all the way here for. That's going to be the same for any resource they could possibly want.

colonnello wrote:This is a what if? question, not that there actually are aliens on earth, that would be crazy!!

Well, then, you may consider asking a site mod to lock this and restart a thread stating the question as a "what if...?" I think this thread, as is, has already spiraled a bit away from from you were trying to go. But I doubt a new thread would be too much different. It is worth a shot though.

Better?

colonnello wrote:This is a what if? question, not that there actually are aliens on earth, that would be crazy!!

Yes, but the problem is that it's not a very good one. I mean, really, what if their secret plan is to become very wealthy, amassing a vast fortune in Earth$ that they then take back to their home planet and...

And then they get back into their UFOs, and fly away, and we chase after them screaming, 'No, please, don't take our money! We can't possibly print anymore!' And then we are left with the sound of their mocking laughter echoing in our ears, with nothing but our alien inspired HD TVs to console us?

colonnello wrote:Yuk! Spoil sports. Nobody uses their imaginations just to make it interesting and just to see what I am talking about, you have to see the film to get what I mean.

It's a great movie. It isn't actually about aliens though, it's about consumer culture and conformity and stuff.

colonnello wrote:I WANTED SERIOUS ANSWERS!!!If you don't have something to contribute don't contribute at all!!!

nerd rage much?

Aliens amongst us?

Bookwrack wrote:

colonnello wrote:This is a what if? question, not that there actually are aliens on earth, that would be crazy!!

Yes, but the problem is that it's not a very good one. I mean, really, what if their secret plan is to become very wealthy, amassing a vast fortune in Earth$ that they then take back to their home planet and...

And then they get back into their UFOs, and fly away, and we chase after them screaming, 'No, please, don't take our money! We can't possibly print anymore!' And then we are left with the sound of their mocking laughter echoing in our ears, with nothing but our alien inspired HD TVs to console us?

I think I saw this, it was called Futurama: Bender's Big Score except they eventually took everything, even our planet and left us adrift on ships.

I suggest that you watch Invader Zim for a more serious take on the subject of alien infiltration.


There would need to be some pretty interesting long term plot in place to justify aliens invading. Fear of competing sentient life might inspire these xenophobic aliens to manipulate us away from space travel and towards war with each other. Revealing their existence, even to obliterate 99% of us, might inspire the survivors to strive for space flight even more. It still strikes me as a criminal waste of resources, but I can see it being motivated by the idea of controlling us rather than risk us getting out of our gravity well. More likely we are a distraction for a really annoying Irken.

This entire thread makes me think of those David Icke following Conspiracy nuts.

Don't worry, Michael Jackson died. I'm fairly confident we're alien free once again.

MJ didn't die, he just went home.

What if someone on dakka is an alien?

garret wrote:What if someone on dakka is an alien?

That is silly
There are no aliens on dakkadakka

Hey, GW engages in a suspicious conspiracy to deprive us of our money. What if they're the alien?

usernamesareannoying wrote:yep, unfortunately they keep crossing the border between mexico and california every day.

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This is the funniest thing I've ever read!!!!!!!!!!


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garret wrote:What if someone on dakka is an alien?

That is silly
There are no aliens on dakkadakka

yeah dakka is an alien free zone!