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I know they are nice and friendly compared to GTs but i was planning on entering the upcoming doubles with my uncle but i found out that none of my armies could side with his. Now i understand that there is an element of fluff stopping this, obviously orks aren't going to side with SM, but i looked at the table and saw that the only sode that Necrons can side with is Necrons. And most are untrusted allies meaning they get a -1 to thier LD.

I thought that doubles tournies were a get-together-to-game event, where you could just bring along ur best mate or family member and just play. But it seems that there are quite a lot of restrictions.

Anyone else think this or am i being too casual??

Eldar Own wrote:
Anyone else think this or am i being too casual??

Nope. I'm surprized they have that harsh a restriction. We have two doubles tourneys scheduled for my shop, and I don't think we intend to have any restrictions.

well by fluff, necrons would never ally with anything else...
kinda makes sense, but if they make some restrictions, they have to do em all...

I can understand where the restrictions on army choices comes from but I think doubles tournaments are all about getting together with a mate, playing some warhammer and just having a good time. Leave the seriousness for GTs

There is nothing wrong with restrictions. If people want to bring IG and Orks they are probably power gamers.

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Or maybe, a pair of friends who just happen to have an IG army and an Ork army.

One of the few tournaments I've played in was a charity doubles tournament, and it was very laid back, and very much a "get together with good people and play" event, rather than anything serious.

Any tournament that you pay to enter and has prize support is serious IMO.

I approve of fluff restrictions, however I feel they should emphasise the more casual nature of doubles tournaments. Hence I feel a compensation is needed, such as minor fluff restrictions or penalty for non-fluffy forces (such as IG w/ Tyranids).

However the main issue i see with removing the restrictions would be that it opens up more opportunity for power-gamers, as they could combine two forces that compliment each other...

Personally Im fine with it as it stands however.

I know that things like IG/Orks would be wired but its easy to play around the fluff restrictions.

My uncle and I often play as a team with eldar/SW. These guys arent exactly chums but the eldar, as fickle as they are, would probably side with them if the thing that the SW are assaulting has some sort of significance to them. The same could go for necrons.

My uncles often play against my eldar as a team. Thier armies are SW and chaos, we're not really bothered but we like to say that the SW are traitors. Problem solved.

By fluff, Necrons would ally with whoever happened to support the Deceiver's current agenda. The Eye of Terror campaign I believe it was had a scenario where Necrons came to the aid of Imperial forces that were out numbered 2 to 1 by Chaos.

Orks and IG is an easy one.

It's really 'BloodAxes' and 'Human mercenaries and Advisors'. That's from the old orky books of 2 decades ago.

The GW guidelines for doubles tournies ae unfairly biased towards he good armies.

The purpose of doubles armies is to allow true combined Imperial armies. Those that think its to allow playing with friends are naive. Without repressive restrictions that heavily favor the IoM, power gaming scumbags may get a chance to flourish and, hell, they might even want basic human rights.

Doubles tournaments are dump.
The doubles should at least play the same kind of armies.

The thing is if you want to do best in the tournament you need the same army. Now, if its for battling with friends, which GW say it is, then this is a bit daft.

Most groups of gaming mates i know do not have the same armies so that they can play games against each other and create better scenarios etc. I have, and sure you have, seen many threads on DD saying "what army shall i collect" they then go on tho say "i dont want it to be SM or orks because my friends have them".

I'll be able to answer this in about three weeks, first time at lenton, and first ever Tournie (well apart from that D&D one back in the mid 90's.)

Due to me shelving my Chaos, its ended up me and my mate taking Orks and Orks, so who knows how they'll run or what we'll face.

But when you look at the force, it does look like one almost normal 1500pt Ork army. Just broken down between the two Klans we have.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:I'll be able to answer this in about three weeks, first time at lenton, and first ever Tournie (well apart from that D&D one back in the mid 90's.)

Its not the actual gaming we're on about here. I think that the army restrictions are too restrictive for a get-toghether-and-play tournament. There's a high chance that you and your mate wont be able to play, or play at a disadvantage, becasue your armies cant play together.

Yeah I get that, what I am referring to is I'll be able to literally see by what armies are there.

If everyone has gone for the same army, or its mostly Guard/Marine (which is what I'm expecting) and hardly any 'other' 40K armies are being represented then it will have been a poor call.

Tbh had I not shelved my Chaos, the -1 Ld wouldn't have put me off combining with my mate, but I could see many folks seeing it as a game breaker and going for the easy option.

Hence why I expect to see lots of Marine/Guard combos.

I too am going to the said torney in Lenton next month. I think the restrictions work well, TBH both me and my team mate are building new armys to take as its only 750pts each its not that hard to build a new army just for this event and he even has xmas to get the last few items that he needs.

Armies wise we are taking a Demiurg (Tau) and Guard mix. Hopefully they play well but back on topic this event sold out in record time so the restritions didn't put people off and its a GW run event at Warhammer world but it all depends on the people running the events how they want to run them. I'm shore if its just a local club event it will be less restrictive but this event people have had around 4 months to plan there armies for it.

Well, if someone wants to put restrictions on a tourney, it's their tourney.

As pretty much everyone has said though, fluff restrictions don't seem to be that common in doubles tourneys.

As a whole, I've found that doubles tournaments are a blast. The ones with serious prize support tend to attract more serious players just like normal, but that's to be expected.

Well if my guild shirt arrives in time, I'll be easy to spot as I'll have a WoW 'flea Circus' top on honouring my Main. Hehe.

Regardless, don't get me wrong, I think its going to be grand fun either way, I just hope to see more armies than Imperium mixes.
I'd love to face Necrons for example, or Elder and Dark Elder, and Orks, always eager to face Orks for a big ole Waaagh match.

Last few doubles tourneys I've participated in there were some shenanigns taking place.
(1.5 years ago...)
I arrived with IG, was paired with a SW player. Yes - it worked out quite nicely for the both of us. I formed a gunline, he put Drop Pods and Blood Claws down...

For one game, we played combined SMs, no big deal.

Another - a pair of CSM players.

Third game was combined SMs and tyranids.
We were Rhino Rushed by Tyranid Warriors, gaunts, and genestealers....

I've seen the same technique used in Apoc battles. I find it irritating, and 'unfluffy', but I get over it and have fun.

Most I've won (winning that tourney) was a blister pack or small box.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: I just hope to see more armies than Imperium mixes.
I'd love to face Necrons for example, or Elder and Dark Elder, and Orks, always eager to face Orks for a big ole Waaagh match.

Not forgetting my own personal team favourite - Tau and Eldar.

They are a good match for one another.

Running a Doubles Tourney in March here, and I'm wondering what kind of pairings people will cone up with.

The thing is the only armies that can combine out of my uncles and I are orks and Chaos and they have a -1 LD penalty. Also my 'chaos' uncle is getting married the saturday after, so i think he'll be to busy orginizing etc. to play .

We're having a doubles tourney next year. No restrictions, but there's a prize for theme, and fluff counts...