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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 10:23:19
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Giggling Nurgling
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This list is realy fun to play!!!
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Big Mek SAG 95
Big Mek KF 85
TROOPS
Deff Dread xtra DCCW+scorcha 95
Deff Dread xtra DCCW+scorcha 95
ELITES
5 Meganobs 200
5 Meganobs 200
5 Meganobs 200
Hvy Sup
Deff Dread xtra DCCW+scorcha 95
3 Killa Kans 3 Grotzookas 135
3 Killa Kans 3 Grotzookas 135
FAST ATTACK
5 Deff Koptas 1buzzsaw
1bigbomm 215
5 Deff Koptas 1buzzsaw
1bigbomm 215
5 Deff Koptas 1buzzsaw
1bigbomm
2 twinlinked rokkit launchers 235
2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 13:53:51
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Wicked Warp Spider
A cave, deep in the Misty Mountains
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Deff Dreads are troops? Or did you mix the troops and eltes around?
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Craftworld Eleuven 4500
LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
LoneLictor wrote:I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.
Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 14:07:23
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Yellin' Yoof
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Big Mek as HQ lets you take 1 Deff Dread (Per Big Mek) as a troop choice.
I like it. Very Orky  How well do you fare on the table with this list?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 14:09:37
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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You are gong to auto-lose 2/3 of your games.
While a mek lets you take a Deff Dread as a troops choice, vehicles in a troops choice slot may not hold objectives.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 14:11:19
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Kaltak is right. Dashofpepper is (as usual, hm...) also right - it says on page 90 of the rulebook that vehicles may never capture an objective, even if they are taken as a troops choice.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/12/20 14:14:19
Paintin' the green tide... one Ork at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 15:02:44
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Yellin' Yoof
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I just learned something  glad both of you pointed that out for us, thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 18:03:29
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Dashofpepper wrote:You are gong to auto-lose 2/3 of your games.
While a mek lets you take a Deff Dread as a troops choice, vehicles in a troops choice slot may not hold objectives.
Think I learnt this from Dash, but now I don't even worry about objectives, my plan is all about tabling my opponent. Not that this list looks scary enuff to table much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 18:08:09
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Roarin' Runtherd
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If you're having fun with it, and aren't very concerned with winning then go for it.
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You must understand that for an ork a day that starts off killing something with your bare hands, and ends with those same hands being chopped off in battle, is a good one.
What's betta than one choppa? Two choppas!!! Two choppas is one more than...is one times da...IS LOTS MORE FUN!! WAAAAGH!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/20 21:18:35
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Fixture of Dakka
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There is nothing zilla in this list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/21 03:08:08
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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This list needs more squiggoth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/21 03:48:24
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Awesome Autarch
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I think that is a super cool list! My only suggestion is to get a forgeworld Mega dread as they are not Apoc only. It would make a sweet centerpiece model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/21 07:10:06
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Giggling Nurgling
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thanks for your replies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/21 18:27:37
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
Wired into a deffdread
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It may not be competitive, but if you're having fun, and if you play this in killpoint only missions, go for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/22 09:11:50
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Giggling Nurgling
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When I play with this list I usually just play for fun and for the look on my opponents face when their LR gets killed by a Killa Kan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/22 15:08:17
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Reecius wrote:I think that is a super cool list! My only suggestion is to get a forgeworld Mega dread as they are not Apoc only. It would make a sweet centerpiece model.
This is news to me....can you back that up with a reference / FAQ / errata?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/22 17:29:51
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
Wired into a deffdread
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Dashofpepper wrote:Reecius wrote:I think that is a super cool list! My only suggestion is to get a forgeworld Mega dread as they are not Apoc only. It would make a sweet centerpiece model.
This is news to me....can you back that up with a reference / FAQ / errata?
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/pdf/orkexprules2.pdf
It's just the forgeworld "experimental" rules. Mega Dread starts on page 3. Doubt anyone would ever let you use this in a tourney.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/22 20:20:03
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Stabbin' Skarboy
123 fake street
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If this list is JFL and for fun then it looks awsome, and will no dought deliver. The mega dread looks sweeeeeeeeet, and a nice center piece.
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"I can envision a world with no war, pain, or strife, were peace is constant, then I envision attacking that world because they'd never see it coming."
- Orks, 4175 points
- The face of an opponent when you lose five dozen models and say "that's it?", priceless. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/22 20:25:47
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Never-Miss Nightwing Pilot
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Good idea include a mega dread, it'll be a laugh why not?
The list may not be tournament winning but its decent and fun to play. Id make one change: more buzzsaws on the deffkoptas, 1 per unit of 5 isn't enough IMO.
Make sure your deffkoptas target HW squads and big-gun tanks so that they dont shoot up your dreads and meganobz.
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"The stars themselves once lived and died at our command yet you still dare oppose our will. "-Farseer Mirehn Biellann
Armies at 'The Stand-still Point':
Cap'n Waaagggh's warband (Fantasy Orcs) 2250pts. Waaagghhh! in full flow... W-D-L=10-3-3
Hive Fleet Leviathan Strand 1500pts. W-D-L=7-1-2 Nom.
Eldar armies of various sizes W-D-L 26-6-3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/22 20:36:01
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Stabbin' Skarboy
123 fake street
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Oh ya, lose the bigbombs. Points are useful somewere else.
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"I can envision a world with no war, pain, or strife, were peace is constant, then I envision attacking that world because they'd never see it coming."
- Orks, 4175 points
- The face of an opponent when you lose five dozen models and say "that's it?", priceless. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/22 20:51:22
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Longmeadow MA 25+ Trade Rep
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The Meganobz need trukks! Other than that, it looks like a blast
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"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness. ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/23 08:01:57
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Sinewy Scourge
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Meganobz too slow for this, either trukk 'em or drop'em.
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Also littlenibbler Orks aren't about armour saves.
Orks are about having too many models on the table, and wasting the other guy's time with your movement phase.
Orks are about having the toughest units on the table.
Orks are about not caring about how many bodies are left in a long winding trail until the squad is down to less than a third its starting strength.
Orks are about rolling more dice then you can count without the aid of a calculator or a pen and paper.
Orks are about having totally fething insane characters tearing gak down like Doc Grotsnik, Ghazghkull or Snikrot.
Orks are about being too fething awesome to die...
Lets settle this in the arena http://pantsformer.mybrute.com |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/23 19:27:19
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Stabbin' Skarboy
123 fake street
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Eyclonus wrote:Meganobz too slow for this, either trukk 'em or drop'em.
I'd say BW, trukks are way too fragile for an expensive unit like that.
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"I can envision a world with no war, pain, or strife, were peace is constant, then I envision attacking that world because they'd never see it coming."
- Orks, 4175 points
- The face of an opponent when you lose five dozen models and say "that's it?", priceless. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/23 20:35:51
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Baying Member of the Mob
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If you want a chance in objective missions without having to sacrifice a bunch of points from your "zilla" units, I'd recommend 1-2 minimum-size units of gretchin.
Dirt cheap (each unit costs the same as one Meganob), they find the nearest objective in cover and go to ground while your big boys do their job. Your opponent will usually be too preoccupied to devote real shooting to them, and you just have to be careful to intercept anything moving to assault them.
I also agree with Despoiler52--drop either one unit of Meganobs (or one unit of Deffkoptas) for two Battlewagons--your Meganobs aren't gonna do much if they can't get stuck in!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/23 20:54:16
Subject: Re:2000 "orkzilla"
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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HQ
Big Mek SAG 95
Big Mek KF 85
fine, works well since you have a nice shield and a weapon for a good laugh.
TROOPS
Deff Dread xtra DCCW+scorcha 95
Deff Dread xtra DCCW+scorcha 95
Need basic troops here, since dreads cant capture objectives.
Also, they arent really the best in troops
ELITES
5 Meganobs 200
5 Meganobs 200
5 Meganobs 200
I'd cut these out.
Add in a unit of 15 lootas, then spend the rest on gretchin units to build up numbers for capturing.
Hvy Sup
Deff Dread xtra DCCW+scorcha 95
3 Killa Kans 3 Grotzookas 135
3 Killa Kans 3 Grotzookas 135
I have no problem with this, except maybe 3 more kanz with either rokkitz or KMB's instead of the dread?
FAST ATTACK
5 Deff Koptas 1buzzsaw
1bigbomm 215
5 Deff Koptas 1buzzsaw
1bigbomm 215
5 Deff Koptas 1buzzsaw
1bigbomm
2 twinlinked rokkit launchers 235
Koptas should have rokkitz allways, since they give them something over other units in the ork dex.
Also, drop the buzz's, they will just waste points and get nowhere mate.
The TL rokkitz on them are all the anti-tank they need.
I'd also drop the big bomms, they really dont do alot against anyone. (they hurt swarm, but dont really dent them to any extent)
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/24 08:53:18
Subject: 2000 "orkzilla"
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Giggling Nurgling
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thanks for the advice
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