necron lord staff of light upgrade

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**jb1**

Does the necron lord still get to "shoot" the staff of light if the upgrade to a warscythe is purchased?

**insaniak**

The warscythe does not have a ranged attack in its rules, so no.

**jb1**

Thanks insaniak,I wasn't really sure if the warscythe purchase was in addition to the staff or a "replacement". The codex isn't really clear, at least to me about it.

**insaniak**

It's an upgrade to the SoL, so the SoL becomes a Warscythe.

You're certainly not the first to find it unclear, though

**chromedog**

The confusion probably stems from the fact that the only other unit with warscythes are pariahs, only theirs have built in gauss blasters.

If you want a shooty lord, give him the staff of light.
If you want a CC lord, give him the warscythe (negates ALL saves, not just armour).

**Zid**

nope, two diff weapons.

**Eight Ball**

Also for what it's worth, the faq confirms that you lose the shooting attack

**KingCracker**

And dont forget it ignores ALL saves as previously stated. Ive heard people try and pull the "well yes but I have an inv. save" crap a few times. Its ALL saves.

**Eight Ball**

KingCracker wrote:Ive heard people try and pull the "well yes but I have an inv. save" crap a few times.

Really? The Warscythe rule specificially says "including invulnerable saves"....

**mrwittwer**

KingCracker wrote:And dont forget it ignores ALL saves as previously stated. Ive heard people try and pull the "well yes but I have an inv. save" crap a few times. Its ALL saves.

I have heard this argued as well, since in rulebook i believe it says invulnerable save can always be taken. Which is ridiculous to try and argue that point, but its been tried.

**insaniak**

I think that little chestnut came more from older codexes, where some models had saves that were not listed as invulnerable saves, but rather as saves that could 'always' be taken...