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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/26 20:13:29
Subject: 2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Torch-Wielding Lunatic
Canada
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I was looking at different ways to play the BTs I have. The idea is to have 5 very difficult to kill tanks that all pack scoring units inside. I should be able to assault if needs be, as I believe the 5 marines can take down smaller guard and shooty units. Pretty sure every army that will wipe out my 25 marines in combat are vulnerable to the AV14. This army makes use of my current truescaled models, making the total investment 2 power fist, 2 flamer, and 3 LRC to complete.
Black Knights, 2000 pts wrote: 1997 Point army list
Black Knights
HQ 140
140 Emperors Champion + Accept any Challenge
TROOP 1857
105 5 Initiates + Powerfist + Melta Gun
268 Land Raider Crusader + Smoke Launcher
105 5 Initiates + Powerfist + Melta Gun
268 Land Raider Crusader + Smoke Launcher
105 5 Initiates + Powerfist + Melta Gun
268 Land Raider Crusader + Smoke Launcher
101 5 Initiates + Powerfist + Flamer
268 Land Raider Crusader + Smoke Launcher
101 5 Initiates + Powerfist + Flamer
268 Land Raider Crusader + Smoke Launcher
What armies will I have problems with?
Do you think its worth blessed hulls at the cost of the Pfists and meltas (probably the vow would change to Abhor the Witch too)?
Are these armies worth playing, or a waste of everyone's time involved?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/26 20:29:03
Subject: 2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Hierarch
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5 LRC with potentially subpar squishy bits inside? I think you're going to have issues with anything that can crack those shells and get at the meaty stuff inside, particularly MCs, or anti-mech MEQ lists.
It's like a snail... crack the shell, and the tasty parts are way too exposed.
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Things I've gotten other players to admit...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/26 23:05:38
Subject: Re:2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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I don't like raider spam. Melta is still increasing in popularity and those raiders want to get close. I see anything packing alot of melta being a refutation of your list, and alot of armies pack a bunch of melta.
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Sangfroid Marines 5000 pts
Wych Cult 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 02:38:32
Subject: 2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
Albuquerque
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Interesting idea, but the LRC spam will be kinda pointless if the dismounted punch they drop off is only luke warm. I don't think you'll be happy with this list. Fill out the Crusader squads, get some Terminators, and some MM Landspeeders as support and you'll be doing ok.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/29 02:48:46
Subject: Re:2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Meltas will waste you (or swooping hawks). Most IG lists run 2-3 squads of meltavets, and a lot oflists run 2-3 squads of guys with meltas. And Lascannons can still blow up a LR with some good rolls. Not to mention MC's, while having a harder time, can lay down a LR with the quickness if they get a few good shots in. And anything that can get a Str 10 or 9 power fist (khorne zerkers, orc warboss, orc nobz, etc.) can pop LR's as well (assuming you don't move flat out). At 2k points I think LR spam just doesn't cut it... you'd basically be sitting in your armored shell taking pot shots until your opponent finally pops them (and not to mention objective games where 6 troop lists would run all over you)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 00:05:25
Subject: Re:2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Unshakeable Grey Knight Land Raider Pilot
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LR spam works, until your opponent figures out how to kill AV 14.
That said, 5 crusaders wont. Crusaders don't have the same anti tank as standard LRs. Meltas are going to kick your ass. Lascannons are going to kill you (you dont have the range). But good luck. Sounds fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 00:23:19
Subject: 2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Dominar
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I think you'll do fine. Many lists have already begun to migrate away from a gazillion meltaguns, and 5 LRCs is darn hard to stop even with a lot of melta power.
Do you get the MM upgrade up top? I know you have the old fashioned smoke, which is a huge plus, but I don't know if you get new-style PotMS and multimelta upgrades like DH have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 03:16:55
Subject: 2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Awesome Autarch
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Old smoke, old PoTMS, includes MM and extra armor, all for less than a modern LRC.
Black Templars are awesome this edition, and that list is damn hard. You will roll right over most anyone you play unless they are tooled for anti AV14, in which case you might get blown through, but who the hell has the tools for 5 LRC's? Plus you have tons of mobile scoring options.
Honestly, I would take 2 or 3 regular LR's as they would fill a gap in your ranged anti tank. But on the whole, this list will fething dominate most armies as it will make most of the other guys units totally pointless. Just focus on what can actually hurt you then laugh at what's left on the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/30 03:33:33
Subject: 2000 Pt Black Templar LRC spam - worth it?
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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sourclams wrote:I think you'll do fine. Many lists have already begun to migrate away from a gazillion meltaguns, and 5 LRCs is darn hard to stop even with a lot of melta power.
Do you get the MM upgrade up top? I know you have the old fashioned smoke, which is a huge plus, but I don't know if you get new-style PotMS and multimelta upgrades like DH have.
Old LRCs get multi-meltas for free.
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