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Hello, I recently got back into 40k. I have been slowly working up in points and then with x-mass found myself with a closet full of stuff to paint. Unfortunately my family didn't do any research and now I have about 1000 points of fast attack orks (3 trukks, 2 BW's, 20 stormboyz) and about 1000 pts of shooty orks (20 lootas, SAG, 6 Kans) in addition i have about 5 boxes of boys. Before I got all this stuff my little 500 pt force was made of the SAG, 1x20 shoota boyz, 1x12 trukk boyz (sluggas of course), 1xkan w/RL. My question is: with these models, could I make a functional split army, maybe with an additional trukk? (I am gearing up for the usual 1750pt games at my flgs)

Orks can do anything that any other army can do and do it better than they can. However, they cannot do everything that any other army can do. Make sense? If you make an ork assault army, they'll out-assault any other army in 40k. If you make a shooting army, you can outgun IG or Tau. If you go foot-slogging, or mechanized, or kan-wall....all those options make you a completely awesome army, but there's a catch. You can only do one of them at a time with an army list.

If you combine a mechanized and a foot-slogging list, you're going to lose. If you have part assault, party shooting, you're probably going to lose. Your strength is in being able to pick something and be completely awesome at it. So before giving you advice on where to go next with your army, you need to pick a theme and build around it. If you want a bike army, or a shooting army; an outflanking army, mechanized, assault, figure out what your playstyle is and start building your units and armylist around that idea.

THAT is the strength of Orks.

coffee + reading the other posts again = idea?

What about 4 trukks (with usual 11 sluggas+PKnob) with 2 BW's filled with 20 shootas each (or 19 w/KFF mek) as a base leaving ~600 pts for IC's, maybe stormboyz?

That sounds like a good base for a KOS list.

Deffkoptas are really good additions for that kind of army too, and they can be gotten off ebay for amazingly cheap.

Deffkoptas are great. I Would put a KFF Mek in one of the wagons for sure, maybe in the 2nd one too, and get a squadron of Deff koptas.

Can you take anything back? I would keep the Kans, Loota's and boyz and swap the truks for two deff dreads and two Big Mek with KFF.

That second thought is a very good one, but drop the shootas alltogether. That would be a mech orks list so you would want to drive as fast as possible and charge with maximum power. You won't have any time to shoot those guys and all you get is one attack less.
Few trukks with slugga/choppa boyz + 2 bw's with slugga/choppa boyz and a KFF mek to protect them + some surprise attack (stormboyz, kommandos, deffkoptas) is a very good idea. I'd be running that for sure.
That's somewhat close to what Dashofpepper uses. If he comes by here you'll get much deeper and more professional info

Dash's list goes something like:

Ghazghkull with 18 boys in BW
KFF mek with 15 burnas in BW
15 kommandos w/ snikrot and 2 burnas.

As many trukk boys as he can. Probably rams on the trukks.
Boarding planks on everything.
Maybe the occasional grabbin klaw on BW, RR or Deff Rolla depending on the rules interpretation of opponents. A big shoota or two to prevent weapon destroyed moving to immobilize.

You could do a similar list with your 2 BWs and 3 trukks. Stormboys aren't bad following the vehicles down the board. If that is what you want to go for.
I believe Dash has also said the occasional killa kan or deffkopta coming behind his block of vehicles to help against deep strikes works.

Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately I can't take anything back as it was bought locally, but i am planning on getting the stuff so I can field either a mech army or the kan wall as $$ permits

My wife will scream at me if I don't go to bed this instant, but I'll rant at you tomorrow morning...patience. =)

Buy two boxes of nobz (or maybe one box, and use spare nobz from boyz boxes for the other 5) and make the cheese squad. While it might get you yelled at, it fits in with just about any army you can make with orks. I've run it behind kanz, I've run it in battlewagon/trukk rush, I've run it in appoc, and on top of that, it's about 500 points if you include a warboss (which you should), so it will "round out" your army if you will. Don't put them on bikes, as that's a different army all-together, and there are many 'papers' to that particular 'rock' But still, the nobz mob is a solid unit that should fit with anything.

As far as what you got for xmas, yes I think sticking the shootas in a BW would be decent. Move it 6 inches a turn so its a bitch to assault it, and shooting 40 shots a turn from it can do damage. Personally though, Id stick the lootas in that BW, it would be far more useful/deadly. Id convert that SAG mek into a KFF mek personally, because they are amazing for vehicles.

The storm boyz are alright, but dont do the dumb thing and march them up there first with no back up. Sure they might wipe the floor with the first unit they come in contact with, but out in the open, they will get their heads kicked in badly. Also if you made the 20 shoota boyz, you should still have the choppa/slugga bits right? You could convert those back into slugga boyz for the trukks, as putting shoota boyz into trukks is just not the way to go, theres to many wasted attacks doing that route.

This really is a bit of a problem though as far as playing smart with Orks. You really do have a split list lol. Your either going to have to convert things, or take things back and exchange them. Because if you go with the slugga idea and use the trukks, the kans are kindda just out there. but if you go shooty, then the trukks are just there as well.

Im curious how Pepper is going to yell at you so Ill wait to see his wisdom on this whole thing


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What you could try to do tactics wise, is hold the trukk boyz back and shoot the ever living poop out of your opponent, and then when they draw close, launch your assault with the trukks. Or do the reverse with that, raid the lines with the trukks/BW and what ever is left support with the shooty ness.

I can afford to buy another 3-5 boxes of boyz easy (thanks to a new job) along with various other units to solidify one sort of force over the other (I got another trukk today). Ultimately I would like to have the components of both the mechanized and shooting army so I'm not stuck with one set of tactics over another. The largest limiting factor is time. The first tournament that I can attend (here in Oregon) is going to be Feb 21. I now have 2 trukks + sluggas/PK nobs, the AoBR warboss (riding in one trukk with the boyz), table ready for the mech force (I think I'd like to go with this set up for the tourny). With the other 2 trukks done and filled with sluggas and at least 1 BW with a KFF mek, where should I go next to finish out this army?