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http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m800008a_FAQ_SpaceWolves_2009

Containing, among other things:

-ICs on a Thunderwolf Mount are naturally Toughness and Strength of 5
-You can take two Rune Priests that share a singular power (as long as their wargear and second power is different)
-Wolf Guard joining a Wolf Scout squad may OBEL with them'
-LOS issues with JotWW
-Arjac can lead squads
-Et cetera

Somebody already beat you to it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/272928.page

Not to posting it in News and Rumours, at least

It's good to see that they did more than reinforce something we already know, like they did with the Planetstrike FAQ.

it belongs in news and rumors, not like the other posts asking "hey guys, what's new with *fill in the blank* armY?". hrumpf!

as for the faq, it's almost a pure win for the RAI camp. except for one or two rulings, they're pretty much RAI and a big disappointment for super strict RAW fans.

My favorite is that Lukas the Trickster can take out a Warlord titan!

Can't access it right now...did they address the multiple Rune Priests each getting a 4+ against Psy powers?

Grarg wrote:My favorite is that Lukas the Trickster can take out a Warlord titan!

Why stop at a Warlord? Or even 'a' Warlord?

6 pages of FAQ, wow, been a while since we needed that much.

It appears that multiple Rune Priests do not give you multiple attempts to negate a power:

Errata
Page 36, Runic Weapon, replace the fourth
sentence with:
Furthermore, whenever an enemy model
succeeds on a Psychic test within 24" of one or
more models with a Runic Weapon, roll a dice –
[…].

sirisaacnuton wrote:Can't access it right now...did they address the multiple Rune Priests each getting a 4+ against Psy powers?

yup. but i was apparantly ninja'd by 2 minutes. only one wolf priest block roll no matter how many in range.

Kinda liked this interpretation, especially considering all the debates on JoTWW:

Q. Does Jaws of the World Wolf require line of
sight? Does it ignore terrain that blocks line of
sight (i.e., impassible terrain)?
A. As a psychic shooting attack, Jaws of the World
Wolf requires line of sight. The Rune Priest must
have line of sight to the first model that the
power affects – in effect he is treated as the target
model; the power just happens to hit everybody
else on its way through!

THANK GOD!!

I love the Trickster ruling. I am gonna run him up to every Titan I see heheh.

I love how they went into detail on already simple rules like Ragnar, but failed to clarify why they left Wolfguard out from joining Skyclaw packs. Seems silly to me.

Liked this one, too. Seems to make sense:

Q. How does Ragnar Blackmane’s Insane
Bravado bonus interact with Berserk Charge?
A. The unit would gain +D3 Attacks when it
charges, with a minimum of +2 (as this is the
minimum bonus conferred by the Berserk
Charge ability) – these effects do not stack.

1. Clarifications on The Leaders of the Pack. Money.

2. I *can* equip a Wolf Lord with a Frost Axe. Win.


Color me happy!

feth I hate answers like this one:

Q. Is the +1 Toughness from a Thunderwolf Mount considered bonus Toughness, i.e. the model becomes Toughness 4(5), or is it a modification to the base characteristic, i.e. the model becomes Toughness 5?

A. Unusually for such bonuses, it is a modification to the base characteristic. Effectively the two creatures have a combined profile with Toughness 5. This is because the Toughness value represents both the Toughness of the Space Marine and the Toughness of the Thunderwolf (which is if anything more impressive than even a member of the Astartes). It is not just an enhanced Toughness for the Space Marine, as with a Space Marine bike. After all, a Space Marine bike cannot react on its own, and is useless without a rider, whereas a giant monstrous wolf is still a tough customer!

So the answer to the question isn't based on the rules, it's based on fluff.

Q: Does rule X do Y or Z?
A: It does Y because it's supercoolawesomekilleryeah!


And I personally find these two answers to be contradictory:

Q. Can a Wolf Guard Pack that has nine Wolf Guard and Arjac Rockfist take a second heavy weapon?
A. Yes, as it is for ‘every five models’, not ‘every five Wolf Guard’.

&

Q. Can a Grey Hunter unit that consists of nine Grey Hunters and a Wolf Guard Pack Leader take a second special weapon?
A. No, as the unit is not comprised of ten models until just before the battle starts, at which point it is far too late to be tinkering with your army list. This provides players who wish to mount their Grey Hunters in a Rhino or Drop Pod with a difficult tactical choice – extra special weapon or Wolf Guard pack leader?

kaiohx wrote:I love how they went into detail on already simple rules like Ragnar, but failed to clarify why they left Wolfguard out from joining Skyclaw packs. Seems silly to me.

Agreed. Adding WG to Skyclaw packs would make them somewhat worth taking.

H.B.M.C. wrote:feth I hate answers like this one:

Q. Is the +1 Toughness from a Thunderwolf Mount considered bonus Toughness, i.e. the model becomes Toughness 4(5), or is it a modification to the base characteristic, i.e. the model becomes Toughness 5?

A. Unusually for such bonuses, it is a modification to the base characteristic. Effectively the two creatures have a combined profile with Toughness 5. This is because the Toughness value represents both the Toughness of the Space Marine and the Toughness of the Thunderwolf (which is if anything more impressive than even a member of the Astartes). It is not just an enhanced Toughness for the Space Marine, as with a Space Marine bike. After all, a Space Marine bike cannot react on its own, and is useless without a rider, whereas a giant monstrous wolf is still a tough customer!

So the answer to the question isn't based on the rules, it's based on fluff.

Q: Does rule X do Y or Z?
A: It does Y because it's supercoolawesomekilleryeah!

Do they really need a reason? It works this way because they say it does, deal with it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:feth I hate answers like this one:

Q. Is the +1 Toughness from a Thunderwolf Mount considered bonus Toughness, i.e. the model becomes Toughness 4(5), or is it a modification to the base characteristic, i.e. the model becomes Toughness 5?

A. Unusually for such bonuses, it is a modification to the base characteristic. Effectively the two creatures have a combined profile with Toughness 5. This is because the Toughness value represents both the Toughness of the Space Marine and the Toughness of the Thunderwolf (which is if anything more impressive than even a member of the Astartes). It is not just an enhanced Toughness for the Space Marine, as with a Space Marine bike. After all, a Space Marine bike cannot react on its own, and is useless without a rider, whereas a giant monstrous wolf is still a tough customer!

So the answer to the question isn't based on the rules, it's based on fluff.

Q: Does rule X do Y or Z?
A: It does Y because it's supercoolawesomekilleryeah!

Actually, I prefer to think that the answer is that way because that's what the rules for TW as wargear actually say. Unfortunately, everyone wanted to compare it to what was in the main rules about bonus toughess, so this FAQ states that what is in the codex is, in fact, correct, and then goes on to give a fluff explanation as for why it's correct. They even acknowledge how this is different from the regular rules for such bonuses. If they had just left out the fluff piece at all, and just said "Unusually for such bonuses, it is a modifcation to the base characteristic. Effectively the two creatures have a combined profile with Toughness 5," would that have been better?

So Furious Charge does work with Counter Attack?

At last.....

Saldiven wrote:Actually, I prefer to think that the answer is that way because that's what the rules for TW as wargear actually say.

Then I have no issue besides the fact that is that's what the rules actually say it does not belong in an FAQ, else the FAQ should be renamed to FASQ - "Frequently Asked Stupid Questions".

kaiohx wrote:I love how they went into detail on already simple rules like Ragnar, but failed to clarify why they left Wolfguard out from joining Skyclaw packs. Seems silly to me.

If they start clarifying why every design choice was made, it's going to be a big FAQ. Although this particular choice is explained in the codex, in the Skyclaw entry: more 'mature' Space Wolves don't like using Jump Packs.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Saldiven wrote:Actually, I prefer to think that the answer is that way because that's what the rules for TW as wargear actually say.

Then I have no issue besides the fact that is that's what the rules actually say it does not belong in an FAQ, else the FAQ should be renamed to FASQ - "Frequently Asked Stupid Questions".

Haha...

There are no such thing as stupid questions.

Just stupid people who ask questions.

H.B.M.C. wrote:And I personally find these two answers to be contradictory:

Q. Can a Wolf Guard Pack that has nine Wolf Guard and Arjac Rockfist take a second heavy weapon?
A. Yes, as it is for ‘every five models’, not ‘every five Wolf Guard’.

&

Q. Can a Grey Hunter unit that consists of nine Grey Hunters and a Wolf Guard Pack Leader take a second special weapon?
A. No, as the unit is not comprised of ten models until just before the battle starts, at which point it is far too late to be tinkering with your army list. This provides players who wish to mount their Grey Hunters in a Rhino or Drop Pod with a difficult tactical choice – extra special weapon or Wolf Guard pack leader?

Not contradictory at all.

Arjac is apart of the Wolf Guard pack. So when you build your army list, the unit contains 10 models.
Wolf Guard Pack Leaders are added to the unit just before the battle starts, not when you create your list. So when you build your army list, this unit does not contain 10 models.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
And I personally find these two answers to be contradictory:

Q. Can a Wolf Guard Pack that has nine Wolf Guard and Arjac Rockfist take a second heavy weapon?
A. Yes, as it is for ‘every five models’, not ‘every five Wolf Guard’.

&

Q. Can a Grey Hunter unit that consists of nine Grey Hunters and a Wolf Guard Pack Leader take a second special weapon?
A. No, as the unit is not comprised of ten models until just before the battle starts, at which point it is far too late to be tinkering with your army list. This provides players who wish to mount their Grey Hunters in a Rhino or Drop Pod with a difficult tactical choice – extra special weapon or Wolf Guard pack leader?

Not contradictory. They're just pointing out that Arjac is another model in the Wolf Guard unit, so he can make the numbers at 10 so they can have two special weapons. It's a totally different situation than the 2nd one. In the first situation, you're taking a 10-man unit in your armylist, so they get 2 heavy weapons. OTOH, in the 2nd situation, you're not taking a 10-man squad, you're taking a 9-man squad in your list and then attaching a dude later (maybe, nothing requires you to do this), so at the time the squad is created, it doesn't reach the 10-man level to take 2 specials, regardless of whether a tenth guy will show up or not. Whereas in the first case, it's just a clarification...yes it's a 10-man unit, so you get 2 weapons.

Really, the first answer is no different than asking if an Ork unit consisting of 19 Boyz and a Nob can take 2 Big Shootas, but no one seems to question that. The second is no different than asking if a 9-man Tac squad can take a heavy weapon if you promise you plan to attach an IC to them in the game to make them 10-man. The first one works (it's a 20-man squad), the 2nd doesn't (it's a 9-man squad).

Edit: crap, beat thanks to my long-windedness.

I'm just glad that GW released a FAQ for Codex: Chaos Daemons.





Oh wait, they still haven't done that.

insaniak wrote:Wolf Guard Pack Leaders are added to the unit just before the battle starts, not when you create your list.

Fair enough.

So can we assume that all units that have Counter-Attack and Furious Charge get both? Or is it going to be one of those things where one FAQ only allows that army to benefit from?