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A 5 mm tall crater can give cover if, using TLoS, it covers the treads on the boot of the target model. It is amusing that GW assumes because the 'real' soldiers would be moving and taking advantage of cover it provides cover. But in another rule, if a model is 'modeled' standing up and shooting it does not represent 'real' soldiers shooting who would be taking advantage of flexible joints.

I do not disagree with the rule. It's a game – a couple of kneeling firewarriors can crack off a few shots and maybe my kneeling missle-launchers can return fire and if that wins or loses the game...oh well. Complain to the marine that fired the melta from 4" away in to the rear armor of an immobilized CSM Rhino that stopped 2.99" from an objective on turn 6 and rolls a

Like many rules discussions they fall apart as soon as 'the real world' is discussed.

kirsanth wrote:

Teeef wrote:A 5 mm tall crater can give cover if, using TLoS, it covers the treads on the boot of the target model.

Common misconception. Page 21 regarding claiming cover, "When any part of the target model's body (as defined on page 16) is obscured from the point of view of the firer" Page 16 says, "for body we mean its head, torso, legs and arms".

I amend my statement "A 5 mm tall crater can give cover if, using TLoS, it covers the lowest part of the leg of the target model.

Fortunately on Space Marines the base of the Greaves are actually at the same height of the tread top if you look at their lowest point. Unfortunately, Kroot run on tip-toe, so no toe-top saves for you. Anyway my point, so poorly made, was 'real world logic' may have informed the rules but can not amend, or adjust, or explain a rule.