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My FLGS will be holding a small 699pt "Quick Tourney" in February following the basic outline of "40k in 40 minutes" style: 2 Troops, no HQ's required, no 2+ saves, no invulnerable saves better than 5+, no models with over 2 wounds, no vehicles with greater than 33 armor (F+S+R), etc. The one wrinkle is while you are not required to have an HQ, you are required to select an army "leader," since there will be prizes for the best painted/converted leader.

Got a list here focused on Devilfish mobility with Crisis Suit support. Other notable lists I will be facing may include 6 Chimeras with 2 Infantry Platoons and Ork lists with 2/3 Truck Boyz and a smattering of Killa Kans, Nobz, Warbikers.

Leader (Elite):
Crisis Suit - 25
Plasma Rifle (or AFP), Fusion Blaster, Targeting Array - 42
Team Leader, Hard-Wired Multi-Tracker, Hard-Wired Drone Controller - 10
1 Gun Drone - 10
Total: 82

Troops:
6 Firewarriors - 60
Devilfish - 80
Smart Missile System, Targeting Array, Disruption Pod, Multi-Tracker, Flechette Discharger - 50
Total: 190

6 Firewarriors - 60
Devilfish - 80
Smart Missile System, Targeting Array, Disruption Pod, Multi-Tracker, Flechette Discharger - 50
Total: 190

Elites:
2 Crisis Suits - 50
Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Targeting Array - 42
--Team Leader, Hard-Wired Multi-Tracker - 10
Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-Tracker - 37
Total: 139

2 Crisis Suits - 50
Twin-Linked Missile Pod x2 - 36
Flamer x2 - 8
Total: 94

Army Total: 695

Basically this army moves in a group using the Devilfish as mobile cover. I line them up next to each other and move them 6-12 every movement, depending on how many shots I need. The Crisis suits, who use the Devilfish as cover, follow them, shoot, and jump back behind in the assault phase. I have 8 St7 shots (4 twin linked and another 2 at BS4) and one BS4 melta, along with 6 Rapid Fire St6 Ap2 shots (4 are BS4).

Each Fish has a Flechette Discharger to deter large Ork assaults. In close up games where lots of shots are needed, I will run the FW's in the 'Fishes up with the suits. For Ork Mobs, I will drop the FW's at deployment for long range support and kamikaze the 'Fishes in hopes that they take the assault bait and lose close to half their mob per 'Fish.

It should be a fun tourney. The small, tactical games are a nice break from the big slug fests that are 2000pt games. This list uses the Devilfish heavily, so if they are taken out in the first 2 turns theirs not much I can use for mobile cover, but hopefully they leave some FW's behind for some RF goodness. C&C welcome!

wow, nice list, that is probably one of the best lists i've seen, you have everything planned out.
one thing though, whats your plan against the guard?

I'd swap the Fireknives for Helios, missile pods will take ages to down a Chimera unless you can get in behind. Have you considered making your army leader a Shas'vre so you can take an AFP for anti-horde? With the extra MEQ killing from the helios you shouldn't miss the Plasma on him too much.

Good list though.

@shas'o vera: Thanks! Against the 6 Chimeras, I plan to hopefully deploy my two 'Fishes back and hope he comes after me or whatever scenario objective we're playing (not the normal three, btw). Then I hope to deep strike all suits behind him to get some sweet back armor. It's not what's in the Chimeras that I'm afraid of, it's his 6 Multilasers that I don't want to get caught in. I feel I can stay away from his melta troops by using Missle Pods, but I can't avoid those St6 shots forever. The Warfish will hopefully mop up whatever climbs out of the Chimera's after their wrecked. If he's any good he'll protect the transports back armor with other transports.

@FlingitNow: To be honest, I didn't think about the AFP, but I don't usually have a lot of luck with it. Most people see it and immediately spread out, but I can see it being effective against troops (orkz and guard) piling out of a wrecked vehicle. Will consider it for sure. However, I'm keeping the Fireknives because I don't want my main transport poppers getting too close until the transports are popped, and that may take 2-3 turns with 6 Chimeras on the board. The only reason they're not another squad of Deathrains is because I need the extra low AP Plasma Rifles along with the Leader's. Thanks for the idea's though, I will most likely test both Leader configs.

those mutilasers have a 360 degree arc of fire, if you can destroy his transports before he gets the chance to fire, you can win.

synchronicity wrote:
@FlingitNow: To be honest, I didn't think about the AFP, but I don't usually have a lot of luck with it. Most people see it and immediately spread out,

That's when you tank shock mobs of troops with a fish or two into a nice packed corridor for optimum template damage

Hopefully I'll be able to tank shock them into flamer range as well.

What else you guys got?

Just a side points I prefer true Deathrains (with TA) to the flamer variant, just seems like throwing 4 points away, but I tend to only get 2-3 hits a turn with the true deathrains I'd be lucky to get one with your variant due to my woeful dice rolling so that might be a reason...

im sorry about this but what are the battlesuit loadouts and their names?

Fire knife = Plasma + Missile Pod
Deathrain = TL Missile Pod
Brightwind/Bladestorm = Plasma + Burst cannon
Helios = Plasma + Fusion blaster

Those are the main ones unless anyone has anything to add?

Heatwave = Twin-Linked Flamer + Weapon

Arguably, this loadout wouldn't do too bad at this point level, bec it's cheap. It just has to get so darn close. It looks like that 6 Chimera list will be packing 6 meltas in 2 platoon command squads and 4 autocannons in the infantry squad chimeras. I'm hoping that my DP's and Guard's 50% BS will keep the cover alive long enough for the Missle Pods to do their work.

ok, does he have any heavy weapon teams?

Yup, 4 autocannon teams in Chimeras. I can't wait to face it! Here is a revised list:

Troops:
6 Firewarriors - 60
Devilfish - 80
Smart Missile System, Targeting Array, Disruption Pod, Multi-Tracker, Flechette Discharger - 50
Total: 190

6 Firewarriors - 60
Devilfish - 80
Smart Missile System, Targeting Array, Disruption Pod, Multi-Tracker, Flechette Discharger - 50
Total: 190

Elites:
2 Crisis Suits - 50
Plasma Rifle, Fusion Blaster, Targeting Array - 42
--Team Leader, Hard-Wired Multi-Tracker - 10
Plasma Rifle, Fusion Blaster, Multi-Tracker - 37
Total: 139

2 Crisis Suits - 50
Twin-Linked Missile Pod x2 - 36
Flamer x2 - 8
Total: 94

2 Crisis Suits - 50
Twin-Linked Flamer x 2 - 12
Missle Pod x2 - 24
Total: 86

Army Total: 699 on the dot (or should I say, "on the Markerlight")

Removed the leader and added a Heatwave team. I may mix the Twin-Linked Flamers into the Twin-Linked Missile Pods group to take advantage of wound allocation, and that way I'll have 2 groups of 1 TL MP with 1 TL Flamer.

ok, take out the chimera's with the teams in them, since its a tourney, he has to specifiy what units are in the chimera.
so, hit the ones with the teams in them, the explosion should kill a few of them, and some of the guardmen that are on foot depending on the formation, oh and the explsion is from the edge of the hull on vehicles