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Hey folks!

Seems like when an open-topped ork trukk careens through a mob of space marines, the boyz inside that are hanging off the sides would be hanging their choppas off the sides, or the nob would be trying to swipe someone's head off with his powerklaw as they fly by. The same can be said for raiders or any open-topped vehicle.

Orks have a piece of wargear (boarding plank) that lets them take assault moves against a vehicle without disembarking, but I think there should be a universal special rule that all open-topped vehicles that pass within 1" or into base-to-base contact with enemy models should get some sort of attacks. C'mon....trukk full of boyz is going to bowl through an enemy unit, or along an enemy transport and NOT try banging on it?

Dashofpepper wrote:Hey folks!

Seems like when an open-topped ork trukk careens through a mob of space marines, the boyz inside that are hanging off the sides would be hanging their choppas off the sides, or the nob would be trying to swipe someone's head off with his powerklaw as they fly by. The same can be said for raiders or any open-topped vehicle.

Orks have a piece of wargear (boarding plank) that lets them take assault moves against a vehicle without disembarking, but I think there should be a universal special rule that all open-topped vehicles that pass within 1" or into base-to-base contact with enemy models should get some sort of attacks. C'mon....trukk full of boyz is going to bowl through an enemy unit, or along an enemy transport and NOT try banging on it?

If the vehicle passes within 1", then you're probably dealing with a tank shock.
If a vehicle passes into base-to-base, you have a tank shock. (assuming it CAN tank shock, of course...)

The orks have something useful for rolling over enemy models, it is called the grand Deff Rolla. Use it, abuse it, enjoy it.

For running into infantry, I think it would be fair enough to impose some sort of modified form of the tank shock. Make it a little harder to death or glory it.

When it comes to side-swipping other vehicles, it really needs to be a variation of the Ramming rules. Maybe with bonuses based on the Boyz in the trukk.

Tank shocking and ramming are vehicle actions - vehicle vs vehicle or vs. troops. I think there should be something for the troops onboard an open-topped vehicle.

If a Dark Eldar raider with an Archon and a bunch of incubi with power weapons tank shocks through an infantry unit, I think the incubi would be holding their power weapons off the side trying to smack someone as they went by. There should be a chance of damage.

Dashofpepper wrote:Tank shocking and ramming are vehicle actions - vehicle vs vehicle or vs. troops. I think there should be something for the troops onboard an open-topped vehicle.

If a Dark Eldar raider with an Archon and a bunch of incubi with power weapons tank shocks through an infantry unit, I think the incubi would be holding their power weapons off the side trying to smack someone as they went by. There should be a chance of damage.

And IG should be firing it's Rapid Fire lasguns into the enemy squad as it drives through them...do Mech lists really need to get any better?

Why not a special piece of gear for embarked Orks to assault infantry without disembarking? Like pikes or something?

Slightly OT, but I think Assault Weapons (such as the Big Shoota) should always be able to fire if mounted on a trukk or Battlewagon. Their strength of 5 takes them above the threshold for defensive vehicle weapons, meaning they can only all be fired if the vehicle remains stationary. You would think that an Ork trukk would be careening across the battlefield blazing away at anything that moved!

Albatross wrote:Slightly OT, but I think Assault Weapons (such as the Big Shoota) should always be able to fire if mounted on a trukk or Battlewagon. Their strength of 5 takes them above the threshold for defensive vehicle weapons, meaning they can only all be fired if the vehicle remains stationary. You would think that an Ork trukk would be careening across the battlefield blazing away at anything that moved!

Yes, but that added movement would mean their rounds are just flying everywhere! Trust me, even at slow speeds on semi-improved terrain, firing from a vehicle is way more difficult than you would think.

Orks never hit anything anyway! You could represent the difficulty of actually hitting something by giving targeted models a cover save in this instance.

Eh, wouldn't make any sense, you cant move within 1" of an enemy anyway so the only logical way you would be able to attack them is by going over.
That means you need to be a skimmer, and DE already have wargear that causes attacks when you go over units.

Albatross wrote:Orks never hit anything anyway! You could represent the difficulty of actually hitting something by giving targeted models a cover save in this instance.

Sure, I'll dig that, as long as it is a 1+ Cover Save.

Skinnattittar wrote:Why not a special piece of gear for embarked Orks to assault infantry without disembarking? Like pikes or something?

Mech Spam ftw...no need for the Orks to even disembark anymore!

Che-Vito wrote:

Skinnattittar wrote:Why not a special piece of gear for embarked Orks to assault infantry without disembarking? Like pikes or something?

Mech Spam ftw...no need for the Orks to even disembark anymore!

I would think it would have to be some sort of Death-or-Glory v. X number of attacks, where X is a portion of the vehicle's carrying capacity? So, useful, but not that efficient.