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Speed Freaks army list

HQ
Warboss-60
+Warbike-40
+Bosspole-5
+cyborg body-5
+Power klaw-25 135
+Attack squig-15


Elite
9 Nob bikers- 405
+cyborg bodies-45 645
+4 Power klaws-125
+WAAGH! Banner-15
+Painboy on bike-55
+5 big choppas-25

Troops
20 ork boys-120
+Nob-10
+Bosspole-5
+power klaw-25 160

20 ork boys-120
+Nob-10
+Bosspole-5
+power klaw-25 160

Fast attack
3 Deff koptas-105
+3 twin linked rokkit launchas-30 135

Heavy support
BattleWagon-90
+Red paint job-5
+Deff rolla-20
+Boarding planks-5
+Big shoota-5 125

BattleWagon-90
+Red paint job-5
+Deff rolla-20
+Boarding planks-5
+ big shoota-5 125


1500

First, your biker nobs need to be uniquely equipped so you can benefit from wound allocation. They should also have a pain boy for FNP. Second, your battlewagons need at least one big shoota so that a weapon destroyed result doesnt ruin your day. Third, nobs in the boyz squads should have power klaws.

yeah ive been thinking of getting rid of my warbuggies so i can get points to equip more power klaws and add the painboy to my nobz. i never even thought of the weapon destroyed lol thanks heaps

Bosspole should be on the nobs, not the boss. The boss can be singled out and eat it in CC.
All boyz squads unquestionably need a pk.
Nobs need a painboy, and probably need individual wargear.
...nobs need to drop armor, as does the boss. They're on bikes which give 4+.
Wrecking balls and armor plates should probably be dropped, they're junk. Wagons need a big shoota each.

And you should probably remove the individual wargear point costs, that's generally frowned upon iirc.

Off the top of my head
Dropping armor, balls, plates, big choppas... +~100pts
2 PKs, a painboy upgrade, 2 big shootas... +~90pts
Leaves you with 15 points... I suppose you could make your buggies into more Koptas, or invest in nob wargear.

ok well ive changed a few things around now..
i got rid of my warbuggies, wreckin balls, big choppas and other small things i probs forgot about.. and with the points i had i added pk's to the boys squads, added ard cases and 3 big shootas to each of my battle wagons and added a painboy to my nobz (Y)

and now i have 40 points left over which im trying to work out..

daBIGboss wrote:ok well ive changed a few things around now..
i got rid of my warbuggies, wreckin balls, big choppas and other small things i probs forgot about.. and with the points i had i added pk's to the boys squads, added ard cases and 3 big shootas to each of my battle wagons and added a painboy to my nobz (Y)

and now i have 40 points left over which im trying to work out..

Can you post an updated list?

As a note, 'ard case is an atrociously bad upgrade 95% of the time. Transporting boyz is not in the 5%. You lose the ability to disembark and then assault along with the ability to disembark properly, and if they're shootas then you lose most of the shooting to crummy firing points... 'ard case hamstrings the whole plan.

And 4 big shootas on the wagon is a bit of a waste. You have to be stationary to fire more than 1, and can't fire them for the half of the game that you're driving up to drop the boyz.

Make sure you remember to drop the 'eavy armor on the boss and nobs.

oh ok then ill downgrade the big shootas to 1 each then if thats the case and take off the ard cases.

But i like the idea of having an extra saving roll for the nobz and warboss, since combined theyre basically my armies real muscle

Drop eavy armors. Bike already bringed 4+ armor save.

Squig for warboss.

daBIGboss wrote:But i like the idea of having an extra saving roll for the nobz and warboss, since combined theyre basically my armies real muscle

Read the Warbike wargear entry on page 46.

Read the Warbike wargear entry on page 46.

lol yeah i know about that, but the armour would give another 4+ save and therefor decrease chance of death

and by the way, this is my first army ill actually be playing with so sorry if i sound like a dud, im not too experienced as of yet


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Squig for warboss.

i think id prefer a power klaw lol

i think id prefer a power klaw lol

You can have both an attack squig and a pk on the warboss, the squig is an equipment upgrade.

lol yeah i know about that, but the armour would give another 4+ save and therefor decrease chance of death

If you purchase warbikes for them, they automatically get 4+ armor save, you don't need to buy 'eavy armour.
I like to buy them cybork bodies if you play against tau, they reduce cover saves so having an invulnerable save is nice.

Oh I just re-read your post about heavy armour, it sounds like you think you can have 2x 4+ armor saves, this is not possible.

daBIGboss wrote:

Read the Warbike wargear entry on page 46.

lol yeah i know about that, but the armour would give another 4+ save and therefor decrease chance of death

and by the way, this is my first army ill actually be playing with so sorry if i sound like a dud, im not too experienced as of yet


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Squig for warboss.

i think id prefer a power klaw lol

Squig is a upgrade, not a weapon. Your warboss still attack with his S10 klaw.

oh wow, i just read about squigs then, i think i will put one on him. A warboss can never be too vicious

Oh btw, 9 nob warbikers w/ warboss warbiker is a bit too much in a 1500 pt game.

Drop it down to say 6, I like have half big choppa and half pk for better wound allocation and to make it even better give one of them a waaagh banner. I also always roll with big choppa on the warboss, I feel he should fight first since he's the biggest and bestest ork around...none of this pk initiative 1 crap.

Oh and when you model a painboy on a warbike, I want to see pictures!

Oh btw, 9 nob warbikers w/ warboss warbiker is a bit too much in a 1500 pt game.

ive been told that alot, but when you see what a large squad of these boys can do, you'll see its deff worth the points lol. I guess all i can do is try it out, and if it doesnt work out, i can always change it

it'll be about 2-4 weeks before i get all the warbikes and stuff i need for the squad but ill def take pics and keep everyone updated on how theyre going

ive been told that alot, but when you see what a large squad of these boys can do, you'll see its deff worth the points lol. I guess all i can do is try it out, and if it doesnt work out, i can always change it

I know exactly what they can do, but it's not much if they don't have big choppas or pk...big choppa equates to str 7 on the charge, and pk is str 9 on the charge

So why are 7 of your really really expensive nob bikers only have slugga/choppas equating to str 5 on the charge?

Oh and since you have a warboss in the army, he is allowed to make your nob squad a troop choice which is good for objective games.

I know exactly what they can do, but it's not much if they don't have big choppas or pk

but mine do have big choppas and pk's lol. 4 pk's and 5 big choppas

but mine do have big choppas and pk's lol. 4 pk's and 5 big choppas

Much better!!

Elite
9 Nob bikers- 405
+eavy armour-45 645
+4 Power klaws-125
+WAAGH! Banner-15
+Painboy on bike-55
+5 big choppas-25

You still need to drop the 'eavy armour, give them cybork bodies for 45 points.

So equipped with cyborks, you will have a 4+ armor save, 4+ cover save, and 5+ invulernable save to protect you from tau markerlights and heavy flamers.

Also a 4+ FNP

Oh and it comes to 670 points for the nob biker squad.

how good would 5 power klaws be against something like a mono or LR?

jehjr1337 wrote:Oh btw, 9 nob warbikers w/ warboss warbiker is a bit too much in a 1500 pt game.

Drop it down to say 6, I like have half big choppa and half pk for better wound allocation and to make it even better give one of them a waaagh banner. I also always roll with big choppa on the warboss, I feel he should fight first since he's the biggest and bestest ork around...none of this pk initiative 1 crap.

Oh and when you model a painboy on a warbike, I want to see pictures!

Biker warboss with bigchoppa is a huge joke...

Cannot harm AV14 at all.

Cannot instant death T5 guys.Even an ogryn could laugh at you. Only instant death for T4 characters at the first turn.

But most of the big names has 2+/3+ armor, and your choppa...

Do almost nothing against 2+/3+ armor.

When your most expensive boy cannot hurt your opponent's big guys, why take him?

Biker warboss with bigchoppa is a huge joke...

Cannot harm AV14 at all.

On charge, warboss with big choppa has Str8, I believe Str8 can glance AV 14 which can "hurt" it.

It's just a personal choice, I do not play against too many monoliths or AV 14 vehicles because I'm used to attacking vehicles who have av14 front armor and av 10 on rear armor (like 95% of the vehicles in 40k).

I have 15 Lootas to take care of the "big names"

anybody think i should bring my list up to 1750, 2000pt or keep it 1500?

whats the more common games?