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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 06:01:28
Subject: 3000PT Doubles Tourny IG/ORKs
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195 CCS w/ PF, vox, regimental standard, LC, MOO, Fleet.
50 5 x Ratlings
105 Stormtroopers x 5 w/ 2 x Melta
325 1st Platoon
PCS w/ 4 x Melta in Chimera w/ Multi-Laser, Heavy Flamer
1st Squad- GL, AC, Vox. 2nd & 3rd Squad- GL, AC(each).
335 2nd Platoon
PCS w/ 4x Flamers in Chimera w/ Multi-Laser, Heavy Flamer
1st Squad- GL, LC, Vox. 2nd & 3rd Squad- GL, LC(each).
50 Sentinal- AC, Hunter Killer Missle
40 Sentinal- AC
40 Sentinal- AC
195 Leamon Russ w/ Heavy Stubber, LC hull, HB sides
195 Leamon Russ w/ Heavy Stubber, LC hull, HB sides
130 MA Warboss( PK, BP, Cybork, Attack Squig, Mega Armour)
105 B. Mek ( KFF, Burna)
210 14 x Burna Boyz
270 4 MaNZ (2 K-Skorcha) in BW ( Ram, Big Shoota)
170 20 x Shoota Boyz- (Nob w/ Pk, Bp)(2 x Big Shoota's)
160 20 x Slugga Boyz- (Nob w/ Pk, Bp)
152 12 x Slugga Boyz- (Nob w/ Pk, Bp) in Trukk ( Ram)
100 BW (Ram, Big Shoota)
100 BW (Ram, Big Shoota)
100 BW (Ram, Big Shoota)
So the basic over-all stategy is he shoots and I assault, or offence and defence whichever way you decide to see it
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/01/30 19:58:21
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 19:58:47
Subject: 3000PT Doubles Tourny IG/ORKs
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Anyone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 20:20:04
Subject: Re:3000PT Doubles Tourny IG/ORKs
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Not glaringly weak, not exceptional builds...
Both mechanized, but not powerfully so...
*shrugs* pretty run of the mill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 21:45:07
Subject: 3000PT Doubles Tourny IG/ORKs
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anything that could make it better
the tourny will have scenario's, not from the rulebook
so we wanted something for each mission as well as opponent
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 22:09:20
Subject: Re:3000PT Doubles Tourny IG/ORKs
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Well, the IG player is pretty short range. The ork player is pretty short range. It isn't "one shoot and one assault" at all.
If one goes on offense and one on defense, the one going on offense is going on a suicide mission: 1500 points assaulting into 3,000 points unsupported. Neither the IG nor orks have ranged firepower worth speaking of. If you both get in close, you're going to spend 2-3 turns getting shot at by long range anti-tank.
Your IG player needs to build a decent list; this is not it. Orks have traditionally weak anti-tank, so the IG player needs to capitalize on anti-tank. Long ranged firepower, and the new codex provides a *lot* of options.
There's a lot more than that going on (or not going on would be more accurate) but the basic fundamentals are run of the mill like I said: Both players created an army list, they don't work with each other, and there's no synergy or team-work that's going to happen on the table - just two people playing on the same side without the ability to support each other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/30 23:16:03
Subject: 3000PT Doubles Tourny IG/ORKs
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theres 6 melta's and 6 LC's for heavy lifting and then 6 AC for transports,
anything with rear AV10 can get taking by mass boyz in assault, and the MANZ could take something bigger,
although that wouldn't ideal
I feel as if we did create an army that is balanced while playing towards the individual army strenghts
More in depth plans
-DS stormtroopers, Scout Sentinals, and infiltrate ratlings, IG gun-line with LRBT's at sides, BW's deploy in line with trukk, and 2 chimera's behind
-Sentinal's/ratlings go for side armour/ MC's, BW fleet moves 12", metla chimera move in for a shot at something scary
-It was my feelin if we didn't lose more than 2 BW's first Turn we should be okay for a huge 2nd turn assault and flame templates of death
-If they destroy all the BW's then the Manz will use the trukk
-if they cant destroy the BW's the Burna and shoota Boyz will do drive bys
Tell me the flaws that you see, also how i should fix these flaws
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/01/30 23:17:11
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/31 03:18:42
Subject: Re:3000PT Doubles Tourny IG/ORKs
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Meltas are a 12" weapon. Its a short range answer - like I said, if the orks are going in alone, they're going to be unsupported by long range firepower.
6 Lascannons. Are you serious? 6 lascannons in 3,000 points to do the heavy lifting?
And like I said - sending 1500 points of boyz (much less, considering your transports) unsupported (excuse me, supported by laughably small-scale anti-tank) against twice its points in enemy is a suicide mission.
Lets presume you get first turn...here's what happens:
Turn1: Orks move forward 12", IG toss lascannons and battlecannons into anything in range. Poof, a vehicle or two bites it.
Turn1: 3,000 points of enemy anti-tank pour into your three battlewagons, followed by templates and small arms into the disembarking squads.
Turn2: Orks move forward 6-12", depending on what's still alive. IG toss out the same shots.
Turn2: 3,000 points of the enemy finish off the orks - moving up to drop flamer templates, and the remaining vehicle or two (if any) bite it and get their contents flamed, blasted, boltered, assaulted, anything else.
Turn3: IG player looks around helplessly, puts out a few more shots.
Turn3: Enemy focuses on the outnumbered IG player.
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I'm a big fan of 2v2 with orks. I play Tau, my wife plays orks, and I'd put money on the table that we can trash anyone. In a 3,000 point game, I'd have 1,500 points worth of long range anti-tank (railguns), snipers, and missiles. The orks are to keep things away from the Tau.
As the orks advance across the table, the Tau are annihilating anything they can touch - by the time the orks get there, quite a bit of the enemy is dead. The orks have been taking a pounding too, and over the course of a turn or two, while eating into the enemy, they die - they *are* after all cannon fodder.
By turn 4, there's a drastically reduced enemy force a full table away from a pretty much unmolested Tau army that finishes it off at long range.
IG+Orks go the same way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/01/31 17:03:55
Subject: 3000PT Doubles Tourny IG/ORKs
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So i got in my collection
HQ- Warboss, MA Warboss, Big MEk KFF
Elites-5 MANZ, 10 NObz, 15 Burna's
Troops-80 shoota's, and 70 slugga's
FA-a kopta, 17 Stormboyz
HS-Looted Wagon Boom Gun, 2 Kannons, 3 Kanz, 4 BW's
and a trukk
Should i fill the table with boyz?
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